Why does God care about S E X?

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Here ya go Adam.  <upgrade ding>  The working name for it is "pecker" but I've got many more names to try.

God, this is fantastic!  It makes walking a little different but I love how it feels.  And. . .  wait. . .  what's it doing?  Does it do this a lot?

Oh that.  Yeah, it does that all the time.  Just ignore it.  In fact, I forbid you to touch it.

Aw jeez, not that shit again.

I wish god would have put more thought into balls and old age. Design my ass!

 Oh yes, I occasionally sit on mine..  I like to have a sauna and then jump into a cold plunge pool. If you don't have a heart attack, you end up with a pair of golf balls. (effect lasts for up to half an hour, depending on temperature.)

I must admit things are a lot better since the operation. Used to trip over them in the dark. Once banged one on a door frame and fainted. WOW! Really? Absolutely, would I lie? 

[WinterHold]

It is one of many factors that contribute to addiction, it is not in itself addictive. Loneliness is also a contributing factor in addiction. Are you contending that loneliness is an addictive drug?

Boru

Pleasurable experiences are indeed addictive. People get addicted to whatever brings them joy if they didn't act with caution.
Thus Dopamine might not be addictive in itself; but the pleasure it brings is very addictive and wanted by many:

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases...%20signals.

SSRI antidepressants involve dopamine as well as serotonin signaling

Researchers have discovered that antidepressant drugs such as Prozac not only affect levels of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain, but also "hijack" dopamine signaling as well--causing it to launch serotonin signals. Their findings offer new insight into how Prozac and other "selective serotonin uptake inhibitors" (SSRIs) work and how they might cause problems in patients taking them.

[url=https://www.eurekalert.org/releaseguidelines][/url]

[arewethereyet]

It is one of many factors that contribute to addiction, it is not in itself addictive. Loneliness is also a contributing factor in addiction. Are you contending that loneliness is an addictive drug?

Boru

Pleasurable experiences are indeed addictive. People get addicted to whatever brings them joy if they didn't act with caution.
Thus Dopamine might not be addictive in itself; but the pleasure it brings is very addictive and wanted by many:

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases...%20signals.

SSRI antidepressants involve dopamine as well as serotonin signaling

Researchers have discovered that antidepressant drugs such as Prozac not only affect levels of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain, but also "hijack" dopamine signaling as well--causing it to launch serotonin signals. Their findings offer new insight into how Prozac and other "selective serotonin uptake inhibitors" (SSRIs) work and how they might cause problems in patients taking them.

[url=https://www.eurekalert.org/releaseguidelines][/url]

SSRI and other anti-depressants are used to replace chemicals in the brain that aren't at the proper level.

[brewer]

It is one of many factors that contribute to addiction, it is not in itself addictive. Loneliness is also a contributing factor in addiction. Are you contending that loneliness is an addictive drug?

Boru

Pleasurable experiences are indeed addictive. People get addicted to whatever brings them joy if they didn't act with caution.
Thus Dopamine might not be addictive in itself; but the pleasure it brings is very addictive and wanted by many:

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases...%20signals.

SSRI antidepressants involve dopamine as well as serotonin signaling

Researchers have discovered that antidepressant drugs such as Prozac not only affect levels of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the brain, but also "hijack" dopamine signaling as well--causing it to launch serotonin signals. Their findings offer new insight into how Prozac and other "selective serotonin uptake inhibitors" (SSRIs) work and how they might cause problems in patients taking them.

[url=https://www.eurekalert.org/releaseguidelines][/url]

I'd take more time to tell you why you're wrong about DA being addictive,.......... but I no longer care.

Think about it this way, if dopamine were addictive it would be a scheduled drug and Parkinsons patients would be selling it or be getting robbed.

[vulcanlogician]

Have you ever taken SSRIs, Winterhold? It doesn't give you a dopamine rush like cocaine does. It regulates serotonin (and dopamine?) reuptake. It SUCKS taking an SSRI for some people. And even when it doesn't suck, it's hardly as good as cocaine.

You are swinging at this with a sledgehammer. I think you need a more precise understanding of how dopamine works, Winter.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

FAIL1:
https://www.healthline.com/health/dopami...n#takeaway


Fail. it's an addictive chemical produced by your brain to serve as "a neurotransmitter", having such chemical overproduced does contribute to addiction (read the quote above).
In our context; it motivates you to have more sex, you get addicted to it being produced, you get addicted to its rush when you have sex; along with other factors -like for example the touch + porn-.

Some?? porn is the recording of sex ! 
No? I didn't say that porn doesn't cause mutations to the brain; actually it causes massive transformation to your mentality especially when you are deprived from real sex.

It is one of many factors that contribute to addiction, it is not in itself addictive. Loneliness is also a contributing factor in addiction. Are you contending that loneliness is an addictive drug?

Boru

I'm a recovering alcoholic.  Sobriety date 30 June 2002 . Stopped smoking 13 January 2003.

Among other things, went to AA for a few years. I don't agree  with the AA claim that alcoholism is always an illness. I'm convinced it can be learned. Took me a decade of regular drinking in slowly increasing amounts before I crossed the line.

 Both of my maternal grandparents were alcoholics.  Seems there may such a thing as a genetic predisposition to alcoholism. However, a psychologist might argue that one can learn to be an alcoholic from parents. My mother simply did not drink. Dad was a heavy drinker, but not an alkie. My 3 siblings are also drunks.

The biochemistry of alcoholism is very interesting. It's most unfortunate that few doctors or even shrinks know much about addiction.
 Dopamine is actually very important. I'm not a chemist so this may be wrong:  In rehab I was told that alcohol triggers dopamine release. IF the drinking continues long enough, the body stops producing dopamine or produces it at a lower a rate. Drinking ceases and person begins to sober up. Needs dopamine. Body not producing. That's what causes the craving (???)  If this is factually wrong, a simple explanation would be appreciated

Most addiction  rehab programmes are based on AA's 12 step programme.  Around 3% of AA members stay sober long term (2 years or over) Would you take drug with a 3% success rate? What I got from AA ; complete acceptance, encouragement and fellowship.

Over the years I learned that my drinking was self medication.  I was trying to 'fix' myself.  I have always been considered 'odd' and always had a hard time with any kind of relationship. I held a job for 33 years.  Managed to stay married for 12 years.  Today even my siblings don't like being around me for more than an hour or so. I remain a hard person to like.

In 2012 at age 65, my shrink diagnosed me as being on the autism spectrum.  That explained quite a bit, but changed nothing. Today I have no idea how much of it has been the disorder and how much just me.

So yeah,  alcoholism and addiction generally are very complex issues.

[Angrboda]

Close may count in horseshoes and hand grenades, but not in neurology, and, again, it doesn't show that one causes the other.  The author makes clear that what overlap exists is unclear, as well as that the implications for human behavior are unclear.

FAIL.




Dopamine is a neurotransmitter which plays a role in addiction.  It is not an addictive chemical.  It plays a role in many behaviors and is therefore too general to be uniquely linked to specific behaviors other than as a general neurological mechanism that plays a role in brain function.  It also plays a role in enjoying chocolate.  And your claim was that it leads to violence.  Dopamine in general has no specific link to violence so your citing dopamine is irrelevant.

FAIL.

FAIL1:
https://www.healthline.com/health/dopami...n#takeaway

The bottom line
Dopamine is one of the many factors that can contribute to addiction. Contrary to popular belief, you can’t be addicted dopamine. But it does play an important role in motivating you to seek out pleasurable experiences.
Dopamine also contributes to tolerance, which requires you to need more of a substance or activity to feel the same effects you initially did.

Fail. it's an addictive chemical produced by your brain to serve as "a neurotransmitter", having such chemical overproduced does contribute to addiction (read the quote above).
In our context; it motivates you to have more sex, you get addicted to it being produced, you get addicted to its rush when you have sex; along with other factors -like for example the touch + porn-.

What part of "you can't be addicted to dopamine" do you not understand, you moronic incel.  Jesus Christ, your own source refutes you. And still no link to violence.

FAIL.

Uh, no.  Sex is represented in some pornography.  Pornography isn't sex.  Your citation explains that excessive consumption of pornography [the representation of sex] can lead to problems with potency and performance of actual sex.  Your claim was that addiction to actual sex can lead to mutations in the brain including homosexuality, not that pornography does.  So your link does not support your claim.

FAIL.

Some?? porn is the recording of sex ! 
No? I didn't say that porn doesn't cause mutations to the brain; actually it causes massive transformation to your mentality especially when you are deprived from real sex.

You did so say that it causes mutations to the brain.  Regardless, an article about what addiction to porn does tells us nothing about what addiction to sex does.

And yes, there is plenty of porn that doesn't involve sex.  Idiot.

FAIL.

3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.

[The Grand Nudger]

Noted sexperts trying to explain the pervy god they worship. Peak AF.

[slartibartfast]

Boru brought up a good point in the Gay thread and I thought we could dive deeper with the question as the actual focus.

Why does god care about our genitals so much?

It's one of the things that really influenced my incredulity and atheism that a god would be so focused on our genitals and what we're doing with them. I know in Mormonism, the focus on sexual purity and repression is part of the BITE model programming for the cult(sex being such a natural part of being human, you can influence and control people by making them feel guilt and shame around this natural instinct they'll never be free from) and a core part of the doctrine(you can't have trans or gay folks because the model for the planetary rewards in the afterlife is Adam and 5+ Eves; The harem god factory doesn't work with Adam and 5+ Steves or if Eve was assigned male at birth, although it'd probably be more fun to run around an empty planet with a bunch of very gay god sex happening). So, I understand for that religious cult why they focus on genitals so much.

But why does god have this focus in other religions?

I always thought it was pretty obvious. Before contraceptives, having sex meant a good chance of creating a life, and if this happens out of wedlock, then this is not just a serious problem in terms of lifelong commitment, but also many women died in childbirth if there was even a minor complication, so this introduced a huge amount of risk physically from an unwanted pregnancy.

Religion created strict rules around this for reasons of common sense. Just as budding societies had to address problems related to crime (murder, theft etc), rules against which all religions have incorporated into their moral code, there were also big problems with controlling sensible reproduction. In virtually all cultures, sexual promiscuity, in particular before contraception was available, was seen as a very undesirable human activity which needed to be repressed and reserved for within permanent. monogamous relationships. 

As soon as you have a religion claiming to have total moral ownership over sexual human activity, naturally the question of how to deal in the moral "code" with the over 10% of humans that don't cleanly fit into a heterosexual denomination comes up. Unfortunately human nature makes it hard for humans to understand how someone else can "feel" or "think" differently to themselves, especially when it is about something that is so central to how we are built as beings. In a primitive society this can really only go one way. What I find incredibly sad is that the revulsion and absolute moral judgement is not only still rife in today's more enlightened society, but is actively being taught and propagated by a lot of organised religion. To me this is one of the most disgraceful aspects of organised religion.

[WinterHold]

Angrboda

FAIL1:
https://www.healthline.com/health/dopami...n#takeaway


Fail. it's an addictive chemical produced by your brain to serve as "a neurotransmitter", having such chemical overproduced does contribute to addiction (read the quote above).
In our context; it motivates you to have more sex, you get addicted to it being produced, you get addicted to its rush when you have sex; along with other factors -like for example the touch + porn-.

What part of "you can't be addicted to dopamine" do you not understand, you moronic incel.  Jesus Christ, your own source refutes you.  And still no link to violence.

FAIL.

You get addicted to the feeling of it being produced ! I'll give you an example: nobody likes chewing tobacco, it smells disgusting. But people get addicted to "the feeling it produces after being chewed" !! you get addicted to the rush it gives you; the light-headedness it gives you for a minute or two.

You know nothing about addiction!

Some?? porn is the recording of sex ! 
No? I didn't say that porn doesn't cause mutations to the brain; actually it causes massive transformation to your mentality especially when you are deprived from real sex.

You did so say that it causes mutations to the brain.  Regardless, an article about what addiction to porn does tells us nothing about what addiction to sex does.

And yes, there is plenty of porn that doesn't involve sex.  Idiot.

FAIL.

3-Addiction to the act can lead to long-term mutations to the brain -such as the case in homosexuality-.

Sex and watching porn do involve the same process of "simulation of private parts" and both end with the same conclusion ! 
Just like a teenager being raised every day to shoot guns in video games; in battlefields they will be "more ready" than a person who never played games. 

And what is this "sexless porn" you've been watching ! I'm sure it's a scam !