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Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
#71
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
Filicide isn't an issue for the Islamist.  The problem he has is a woman taking control.  That's a scary thing for hateful pricks.
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#72
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 30, 2021 at 8:01 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Filicide isn't an issue for the Islamist.  The problem he has is a woman taking control.  That's a scary thing for hateful pricks.
Well I'm kind of a hateful prick, and I love it when a woman takes control.
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#73
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
Quote:You said it was "just one" who got blinded; on the contrary in reality it was a common and a standard punishment by the Christian heathens.

Thousands -if not Millions- suffered the same fate at the hands of the Christian heathens.
As opposed to the chopping of limbs and Fratricide as Muslims did  Hehe
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 30, 2021 at 8:13 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 8:01 pm)Ranjr Wrote: Filicide isn't an issue for the Islamist.  The problem he has is a woman taking control.  That's a scary thing for hateful pricks.
Well I'm kind of a hateful prick, and I love it when a woman takes control.

My wife taking control would be a misnomer - it would imply that there was some point at which I had control.

Boru
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#75
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 30, 2021 at 4:53 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 4:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You don't worship a god, Winter, you worship a book written by a warlord to service his own ends and claims - long since dead.  If that god came down and told you everything in the book was full of shit, you'd crucify him, like a common christian, I guess.

Yes yes, but Christian heathens like Irene of Athens were gouging out the eyes of their own sons.

You're aware of what your own favorite warlord did to get ahold of and hold on to power, correct? I just don't see how this is so notable or surprising in it's own right. People who want to rule tend to do terrible shit.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 3:53 pm)WinterHold Wrote: You said it was "just one" who got blinded; on the contrary in reality it was a common and a standard punishment by the Christian heathens.
Thousands -if not Millions- suffered the same fate at the hands of the Christian heathens.

Of course heathens are sort of the opposite of Christians...another example of your babble.

You still haven't answered my question either.

Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with. You are not winning the argument by asking an unrelated thing.
So ask about the fact that Heathen Christians -like Irene of Athens- gouged out the eyes of their own sons.
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#77
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Of course heathens are sort of the opposite of Christians...another example of your babble.

You still haven't answered my question either.

Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with.
So...

It’s precisely the same topic, which is excessively cruel punishments. She’s asking if your maiming, flogging, beheading society would punish you for joining an atheist website. 

They might think it smacks of apostasy.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Astreja Wrote: WinterHold, please confront the endemic problem of legalistic maiming of criminals in Islamic societies in the present day.

The Quran -which I'm taking as my personal law- doesn't orders maiming but in two cases:

1-Robbery, by cutting the hand of the thieve -unless pardoned by the victim-.
2-Cutting both the hand & the leg in the case of the criminal is spreading corruption in the land as the verse say:


Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
https://quran.com/5:33?store=false&translations=

Indeed, the punishment for those who fight Allah and His Messenger and rush about in the land spreading corruption is that they be relentlessly killed or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides or be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in the Earlier(Life) , and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment—

— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation

That's the only "maiming" in my religion, and you have to be a Mongol looter or a mafia boss to receive the sentence. 
But no touching to the eyes unless the commuter touched the eye of the victim first. Messing with eyes is inhumane.

(December 31, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 31, 2021 at 7:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with.
So...

It’s precisely the same topic, which is excessively cruel punishments. She’s asking if your maiming, flogging, beheading society would punish you for joining an atheist website. 

They might think it smacks of apostasy.

Boru

It's not related. My societies don't even carry these sentences anymore.
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#79
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:04 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Of course heathens are sort of the opposite of Christians...another example of your babble.

You still haven't answered my question either.

Yours is not a question; it's a cheap practice of Socratic Method; one that is very distant from our topic to begin with. You are not winning the argument by asking an unrelated thing.
So ask about the fact that Heathen Christians -like Irene of Athens- gouged out the eyes of their own sons.

I have asked you a question many times. You are just a fucking coward...just like I always figured you were.

pffft

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#80
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 31, 2021 at 7:26 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 30, 2021 at 3:59 pm)Astreja Wrote: WinterHold, please confront the endemic problem of legalistic maiming of criminals in Islamic societies in the present day.

The Quran -which I'm taking as my personal law- doesn't orders maiming but in two cases:

1-Robbery, by cutting the hand of the thieve -unless pardoned by the victim-.
2-Cutting both the hand & the leg in the case of the criminal is spreading corruption in the land as the verse say:


Quote:Sura 5, The Quran:
https://quran.com/5:33?store=false&translations=

Indeed, the punishment for those who fight Allah and His Messenger and rush about in the land spreading corruption is that they be relentlessly killed or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on opposite sides or be banished from the land. That is a disgrace for them in the Earlier(Life) , and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment—

— Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation

That's the only "maiming" in my religion, and you have to be a Mongol looter or a mafia boss to receive the sentence. 
But no touching to the eyes unless the commuter touched the eye of the victim first. Messing with eyes is inhumane.

(December 31, 2021 at 7:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s precisely the same topic, which is excessively cruel punishments. She’s asking if your maiming, flogging, beheading society would punish you for joining an atheist website. 

They might think it smacks of apostasy.

Boru

It's not related. My societies don't even carry these sentences anymore.
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It is very much related.

Are you seriously contending that Muslim societies no longer practice cutting off of hands/feet, flogging, and chopping off heads?

Irene of Athens was a terrible person who did a terrible thing by having her son’s eyes gouged out. I don’t think any here is disputing that. But - according to you - she wasn’t a ‘true’ Christian, so I’m not sure why you keep going on about this.

Boru
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