Trump is going to be reelected....

[Anomalocaris]

Power, Class, Freedom, Justice, Wit

That's not what the rest of the world see.

Just sayin...

I think american values are covid, Walmart, poor education, nostalgia for pre-enlightenment religiosity, entitlement without responsibility, push button assassinations around the world, firm belief these are adaquate basis for sustaining a remnant of anglophone hegemony in world affairs, oh, and yes, more covid.

[Astreja]

Nah, those are Liberal values. Just seeing the way those values are being promoted in society should tell you LIberalism isn't the right course of action.

By taking the opposite of the values I suggested, that would make Ahriman's All-American Values™ these:

Dependence
Inequality
Every man for himself
Slacking off

(looks at Ahriman and goes "Hmmm...")

[LadyForCamus]

Nah, those are Liberal values. Just seeing the way those values are being promoted in society should tell you LIberalism isn't the right course of action.

By taking the opposite of the values I suggested, that would make Ahriman's All-American Values™ these:

Dependence
Inequality
Every man for himself
Slacking off

(looks at Ahriman and goes "Hmmm...")

He’s already run away from the challenge of actually explaining his position, like the troll that he is.

[Fireball]

That's not what the rest of the world see.

Just sayin...

I think american values are covid, Walmart, poor education, nostalgia for pre-enlightenment religiosity, entitlement without responsibility, push button assassinations around the world, firm belief these are adaquate basis for sustaining a remnant of anglophone hegemony in world affairs, oh, and yes, more covid.

So, what country are you moving to, away from the US?

[vulcanlogician]

Back to the OP: I live on the border of Pennsylvania in the Appalachian mountains. This area is fairly conservative. Anyway, we get a lot of Pennsylvania political ads here. And it's worrisome how many ads are pounding the Trump drums to rally against the Democrats. Like he's being quoted and everything. On the left, we like to say, "You can't kill an idea." But, if that's true, it's true for conservatives as well. Whether or not Trump gets reelected, the idea of Trump is already a political force... an ideological force. That, to me, is even more worrisome than Trump's reelection.

[Anomalocaris]

I think american values are covid, Walmart, poor education, nostalgia for pre-enlightenment religiosity, entitlement without responsibility, push button assassinations around the world, firm belief these are adaquate basis for sustaining a remnant of anglophone hegemony in world affairs, oh, and yes, more covid.

So, what country are you moving to, away from the US?

i heard canada is a very incompetent country that has made disgracefully little progress in emulating either American decline or american pride in its own decline and debasement.

[Jehanne]

So, what country are you moving to, away from the US?

i heard canada is a very incompetent country that has made disgracefully little progress in emulating either American decline or american pride in its own decline and debasement.

We have more nuclear weapons than they do, and, so, ha!

[Pat Mustard]

I'm amused when people praise the chump for the tariffs on Chinese goods, when I explain and it finally dawns on them that they are paying the price. smh  And the tariffs won't do any good, since the infrastructure is now in China, and nobody wants to risk the billions to re-make it here.

Plus they miss the fact that China and Europe just retaliated with tariffs of their own, as countries always do, which stifles trade.  US Farmers actually lost a HUGE amount of exports during Trump's term because their products were all taxed to death.  What did Trump do?  Why he bailed them out, of course.  Something else Trumpsters keep saying they hate, gov. bailouts.

The reich wing always love their bail-outs. Their problems with them begin when they start being given to people who a) don't have a pasty beige skin colour and b) don't have their reproductive organs dangling between their legs.

Why else do you think the US military budget is so bloated, at about ten times it needs to be?

[Spongebob]

Plus they miss the fact that China and Europe just retaliated with tariffs of their own, as countries always do, which stifles trade.  US Farmers actually lost a HUGE amount of exports during Trump's term because their products were all taxed to death.  What did Trump do?  Why he bailed them out, of course.  Something else Trumpsters keep saying they hate, gov. bailouts.

The reich wing always love their bail-outs.  Their problems with them begin when they start being given to people who a) don't have a pasty beige skin colour and b) don't have their reproductive organs dangling between their legs.

Why else do you think the US military budget is so bloated, at about ten times it needs to be?

Yeah, I totally agree.  What I struggle with is understanding exactly what Trump did during his 4 years to so overwhelmingly deserve their worship.  What programs or major economic shifts occurred?  What major improvements of any type occurred?  All I can ever really see is that he just constantly berated the people they hate and they love him for that.

[Ahriman]

The reich wing always love their bail-outs.  Their problems with them begin when they start being given to people who a) don't have a pasty beige skin colour and b) don't have their reproductive organs dangling between their legs.

Why else do you think the US military budget is so bloated, at about ten times it needs to be?

Yeah, I totally agree.  What I struggle with is understanding exactly what Trump did during his 4 years to so overwhelmingly deserve their worship.  What programs or major economic shifts occurred?  What major improvements of any type occurred?  All I can ever really see is that he just constantly berated the people they hate and they love him for that.

That's as good a reason as any, for some people.