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Indoctrination
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#31
RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 9:07 am
(January 21, 2022 at 1:52 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I'm not much of an intellectual powerhouse.
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RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 10:23 am
(January 22, 2022 at 8:16 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 22, 2022 at 1:36 am)Astreja Wrote: No evidence for gods that's up to our standards.
Nah, there's got to be more to it than that.

Why?
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#33
RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 10:34 am
As to the original question, the accusation of indoctrination is a lot like the accusation that an atheist has faith. Unable to bring themselves up to your level, they want to bring you down to theirs.
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#34
RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 11:26 am
(January 22, 2022 at 10:23 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(January 22, 2022 at 8:16 am)Ahriman Wrote: Nah, there's got to be more to it than that.

Why?
Believers often, knowingly, lack evidence for God's existence. So a lack of evidence isn't exclusive to atheists.
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#35
RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 12:13 pm
Why would you believe something that you have no evidence for?
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#36
RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 12:42 pm
(January 22, 2022 at 12:13 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Why would you believe something that you have no evidence for?
It's called faith.
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RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 12:55 pm (This post was last modified: January 22, 2022 at 12:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A lot of us probably think of faith some other way. A thing we have because we’ve seen so much evidence that no future discovery could overturn our present conclusions.

I have complete faith in the people closest to me, for example.

I don’t buy this faith shit in questions about evidence, anyway. The faithful never tire of describing their evidence.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 1:01 pm
Well there are different types of evidence. The evidence of a believer is faith-based evidence, meaning it's not empirical evidence, but still a valid form of evidence.
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RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 1:06 pm
Already told you I don’t buy it. The faithful never tire of describing their empirical evidence.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Indoctrination
January 22, 2022 at 1:10 pm
What if a person has an extra-sensory (beyond 5 senses) experience in a way that can be measured using scientific tools, would you consider that evidence for something supernatural?
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