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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 12:36 am
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(October 27, 2022 at 12:18 am)Ranjr Wrote: Remember that time Russia won that war. Without help from anyone. All their own damn selves. Indeed the idea Russia won by itself is laughable
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 12:50 am
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It's actually funny he brings up WW2 as the modern Russian army seems to be repeating many of the WW2 German Army's mistakes. Like sending flipping armored divisions into muddy terrain and deploying weapons ill-suited to the place they are fighting and skimping on logistics to attack quickly.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 12:50 am
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(October 26, 2022 at 11:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote: (October 26, 2022 at 8:43 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: Sure, time and numbers, just like Nazi Germany had in '45 when they called up boys and old men to fight too.
It was the Russians who defeated the Nazis, due to time and numbers (and greater industrial output).
Boy, what a terrible waste of russian lives that was, right? There was never really a russia anyway, except as a german colony, as Catherine The Great demonstrates. Besides, the nazis needed a buffer between their national borders and china as a us ally who was hosting troops and long range weapon systems. They should have accepted the nazis perfectly reasonable territorial demands and backed off all the way into the sea, but..ofc, they couldn't, because the us forced them to fight and provided military assistance in order to prolong the conflict, instead.
For what? So they could end up a gas station with nukes under the western thumb. Meanwhile germany's over there doing just fine. Damn You Great Satan!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 12:54 am
(October 27, 2022 at 12:50 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (October 26, 2022 at 11:58 pm)Belacqua Wrote: It was the Russians who defeated the Nazis, due to time and numbers (and greater industrial output).
Boy, what a terrible waste of russian lives that was, right? They should have accepted the nazis perfectly reasonable territorial demands and backed off all the way into the sea, but..ofc, they couldn't, because the us forced them to fight instead. Yeah, I mean Hitler felt threatened by Communism which totally justified his invasion. 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 1:06 am
As we all know, the best way to prevent an imaginary future invasion is to launch a real one today.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 1:16 am
(October 27, 2022 at 1:06 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: As we all know, the best way to prevent an imaginary future invasion is to launch a real one today. Yup claim you are not a threat than do the one thing that convinces everyone you are a threat.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 1:44 am
(October 26, 2022 at 9:18 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is that supposed to sound like a good argument for less foreign aid to ukranians fighting for their lives in their country? Are we suggesting that we take advantage of the ukranians in this moment of weakness to trade their country away out from under them to the man presently lobbing iranian suicide drones at their homes and infrastructure to better satisfy our own national interests (whatever we believe them to be)....?
It's surprising to me that even 2022, folks like @ Belacqua have yet to digest the lesson of 1938.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 2:21 am
Quote: Germany loses and China gains.
BASF does not equal Germany. Cant believe i have to say that.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 3:03 am
(October 27, 2022 at 2:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Quote: Germany loses and China gains.
BASF does not equal Germany. Cant believe i have to say that. Indeed BASF is a multinational company that operates in 80 countries. So yeah these are not the same.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 27, 2022 at 3:39 am
(October 27, 2022 at 3:03 am)Helios Wrote: (October 27, 2022 at 2:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: BASF does not equal Germany. Cant believe i have to say that. Indeed BASF is a multinational company that operates in 80 countries. So yeah these are not the same. BASF is a typically energy heavy, oil and gas heavy, industry, not representative für Germany as a whole.
I actually grew up looking at the gas fueled torches in Ludwigshafen burning 24/7.
Don't need an bootlicking American jerk sitting on Mt. Fuji, half a fucking globe awy, to tell me about BAS fucking F.
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