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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 11:24 am
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A maniac already has control of russias nukes. That’s situation normal.
The wagnerites probably already have their hands on a few too. They’ve been securing military installations on their march to Moscow.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 12:01 pm
The outcome of this tsuris is likely to depend on which side Russian citizens align themselves with. If they’re fed up enough with the Putin regime and fall in with the Wagners, it’s probably Swan Lake time.
Alternatively, if they can be convinced that Prigozhin is an existential threat to the Rodina, Putin probably has an edge.
Watch this space for more armchair strategist opinions. 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 12:25 pm
(June 24, 2023 at 4:32 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Swinging from a rope? That's hardly Russia's style. They prefer to use poisons.
And if you're talking about the more recent killings, even if they tried hanging, it'd be a fake suicide with just enough plausible deniability.
And given that Prigo's actively waging war on Putin, I suspect Novichok's more likely in his future.
No. This armed insurrection will see him taken out behind a building and shot. There will be no subtlety or plausible deniability; the Kremlin will leave his body for public viewing as a warning.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 12:32 pm
(June 24, 2023 at 12:25 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (June 24, 2023 at 4:32 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Swinging from a rope? That's hardly Russia's style. They prefer to use poisons.
And if you're talking about the more recent killings, even if they tried hanging, it'd be a fake suicide with just enough plausible deniability.
And given that Prigo's actively waging war on Putin, I suspect Novichok's more likely in his future.
No. This armed insurrection will see him taken out behind a building and shot. There will be no subtlety or plausible deniability; the Kremlin will leave his body for public viewing as a warning.
Unless Prigozhin wins.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 12:35 pm
(June 24, 2023 at 12:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Unless Prigozhin wins.
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Right. I have to assume that he won't, though. Even though his troops are the best Russian soldiers, the numbers weigh against them.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 2:21 pm
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 2:57 pm
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The citizens of rostov on don greeted wagner as liberators. They're fucking off now back to their fortified bases and captured russian airfields for the night. They don't have nvgs.
The russian regime just made the most basic mistake when dealing with a gang of criminals. They paid somebody.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 2:58 pm
(June 24, 2023 at 12:35 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (June 24, 2023 at 12:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Unless Prigozhin wins.
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Right. I have to assume that he won't, though. Even though his troops are the best Russian soldiers, the numbers weigh against them.
Simple extortion, beautifully executed.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 3:27 pm
(June 24, 2023 at 2:57 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The citizens of rostov on don greeted wagner as liberators. They're fucking off now back to their fortified bases and captured russian airfields for the night. They don't have nvgs.
The russian regime just made the most basic mistake when dealing with a gang of criminals. They paid somebody.
That’s the trouble with mercs; you have to pay to get them to start fighting. And unless you’re REALLY lucky, you have to pay to get them to stop.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 3:38 pm
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Quote:At the moment, an absolutely profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation is on the table, with security guarantees for the wagner pmc fighters
-Statement from Belarus
Yeah, I bet, and I'm sure those guarantees are as good as the ones russia gave ukraine back in the day.
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