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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Must be. Things are always either

A :Master Russian Strategy.
or
B :Amateurish Ukrainian blunders.

..but never

C :Master Ukrainian Strategy in the face of amateurish Russian blunder.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
i think russians have simplified their approach after their initial efforts to be fancy have all failed.   they’ve fallen back on the simple fact that russia is bigger, more populous and richer than ukraine by a big enough margin so that she can outlast western support and run ukraine out of money and manpower.

ukraine overestimated the significance of her own initial success and the value of fancy western weapons to the fundamental balance of power,  and also continue to overestimate the real value of emotionally satisfying pin pricks she successfully publicized as glorious triumphs,  so ukraine has not yet rationalized her own approach based on her position as russia has.

so at the beginning the russians made all the blunders.   since last spring the russians have done well and ukraine is making all the blunders.

Russia never did well enough to suffer from victory disease but remains fundamentally the stronger side.   ukraine continues to suffer from victory disease even while balance of power tilts further away from her.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
If this is russia "doing well"........
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(January 18, 2024 at 6:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If this is russia "doing well"........

They're only in the second year of a three day invasion - it's right on schedule.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(January 18, 2024 at 6:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If this is russia "doing well"........

Russia doing poorly would be august 1914 or June -Nov 1941.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
There we go imagining that they're the soviet union. They aren't..but in point of fact, russias casualties in ukraine are worse than all of russia and the soviet unions casualties since 1945, combined.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(January 18, 2024 at 3:26 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: ukraine continues to suffer from victory disease even while balance of power tilts further away from her.

This would be laughable were it not so far off base. Do you honestly think the Ukrainians are so overconfident that they aren't worried shitless?

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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Victory is a disease for ukraine, an inevitability for russia. Every good vatnik knows this. You know just how poorly it's going for ukraine by how much they're winning, and you know just how much winning russia is doing by how badly they're losing.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(January 18, 2024 at 9:35 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Victory is a disease for ukraine, an inevitability for russia.  Every good vatnik knows this.  You know just how poorly it's going for ukraine by how much they're winning, and you know just how much winning russia is doing by how badly they're losing.

The whole of that situation in Russia/USSR/CIS/whatever has been like the book 1984 before it was even written. #RoleModel
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(January 18, 2024 at 7:41 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(January 18, 2024 at 6:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If this is russia "doing well"........

Russia doing poorly would be august 1914 or June -Nov 1941.

They're doing poorly right this moment, there's no need to look back a century.

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