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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 15, 2024 at 1:36 pm
(June 15, 2024 at 1:04 pm)Fireball Wrote: Back when the USSR was imploding, the US bought tons of their fissile materials. Getting the physics packages out of the missiles would be best. Don't need the rest except for looking at their missile tech, if we don't already know. I hope that the Chinese don't get there first.
In all likelihood they will, given the antipathy that has been instilled in the Russian people towards America over the last two decades, plus the strong and growing ties between Russa and China.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 15, 2024 at 4:30 pm
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That transfer was classified at the time. But I doubt that such a transfer could happen with any level of secrecy, these days. NB- I knew nothing about, no NTK. I only repeat what I saw in the news.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 15, 2024 at 4:56 pm
Strong and growing like chinas hands around russias throat. 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 7:27 am
(This post was last modified: June 16, 2024 at 7:28 am by Fake Messiah.)
Gee, I wonder if these two stories are somehow connected?
Quote:Kremlin Bots Flood Internet with Fake Celebrity Quotes Against Ukraine like Jennifer Aniston and Scarlett Johansson
“We are impoverished, it's time to forget about Ukraine,” read a quote falsely attributed to Jennifer Aniston. Another fake quote from Scarlett Johansson claimed, “The EU is falling apart.”
These quotes were part of a wider campaign that saw images of celebrities plastered with fake messages urging an end to aid for Ukraine and predicting the collapse of Europe. The campaign's sheer volume was staggering, with over 500,000 views in just two days.
The bots didn’t limit themselves to English; they spread their messages in French, German, and Polish too. Fake quotes were attributed to a wide range of celebrities, including Ashton Kutcher, Angelina Jolie, Alain Delon, Luc Besson, Elton John, and Lionel Messi.
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/kre...r-BB1ojbbu
And this
Quote:Trump promised to deal with "endless" payments to Ukraine if he wins the presidential election
Reflecting on Zelensky, he called him a "salesman."
"Zelenskyy is probably the greatest salesman of all living politicians. Whenever he comes to our country, he leaves it with $60 billion... And then he comes back and says he needs another $60 billion, and so on without end."
http://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow/108580912.cms
Anyway, Russians seem to be grasping by the last straw when they have to stoop down and fake Scarlett Johansson's quote in hopes of winning the war.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 9:41 am
Well, I give you my personal assurance that anything Scarlett Johanson says is gospel. 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 10:55 am
On the War of Information:
France 24 has a special edition called “Vu de Russie” (The Russian Approach) that is attempting to decipher the disinformation on Russian state media. And I cannot stand it. It gives me headaches.
In fact I have heard that that type of constant propaganda is designed to drive you insane if you refuse to give up and start believing whatever BS the state controlled media is feeding you.
On the Possibility of Civil War:
I think this is already happening. I know it because the same is happening here. Russian army officers are deserting their ranks and trying to build new lives in Kazakhstan or Armenia. Some are finding ways to reach other countries with fake papers etc. The problem is that they are unable to desert when the Armed Forces still have their passports. And European NGO’s are saying we must try to help them escape Russia without having to leave their family behind them.
These are usually idealistic very patriotic people who wanted a career in the armed forces but end up as deserters because the regime is making them do everything they swore to defend their country against:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-west-...56757.html
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 12:36 pm
Not looking great for russia today, they appear to have gotten themselves encircled up in vovchansk. Putins ruling party secretary has offered his resignation.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 2:13 pm
(June 16, 2024 at 12:36 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Not looking great for russia today, they appear to have gotten themselves encircled up in vovchansk. Putins ruling party secretary has offered his resignation.
There are reports that these encircled Russian have surrendered.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 2:23 pm
(June 16, 2024 at 2:13 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (June 16, 2024 at 12:36 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Not looking great for russia today, they appear to have gotten themselves encircled up in vovchansk. Putins ruling party secretary has offered his resignation.
There are reports that these encircled Russian have surrendered.
Probably a smart move.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 16, 2024 at 2:25 pm
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Yeah, I saw where the ukranians had fired dummy rounds full of cash into their position...some weird ass communist ritual.
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