Russia and Ukraine

[Anomalocaris]

At work.

 This is the second medium I've seen the "American's lied about Iraq invasion. Therefore they can't critisize Russia."

 Okay, seems a bit weird but what ever.

So, to the best of my knowledge, my country has nevef invaded any where else (Australia) thus can I justifiably say that Russia invading Ukraine is wrong?

 How about those other 'Noninvasive' countys calling Russia wrong?
 

when some countries get sanctioned to hell for justified invasion while other get off scott free trashing whole regions just trying to aggrandize itself, that hardly make criticism instigated by the latter anymore than worthless self-serving noise.

[arewethereyet]

You really need to take your meds. And if you don't have meds, you should get some.

You have really become a dick lately.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

 This is the second medium I've seen the "American's lied about Iraq invasion. Therefore they can't critisize Russia."

 Okay, seems a bit weird but what ever.

So, to the best of my knowledge, my country has nevef invaded any where else (Australia) thus can I justifiably say that Russia invading Ukraine is wrong?

 How about those other 'Noninvasive' countys calling Russia wrong?
 

when some countries get sanctioned to hell for justified invasion while other get off scott free trashing whole regions just trying to aggrandize itself, that hardly make criticism instigated by the latter anymore than worthless self-serving noise.

Yes thank you for continuing your conversation with the other posters. Kudos Mate.

So I gather that's a 'Yes', then? Australia etc can happily call Putin et all a right bunch of c*nts, right?

Nice to see you're all on board with the 'Invasion apologetics'.

Good to know.

Will you be attemping a Godwin any time soon with the old "Hitler was just a misunderstood artist" next? Or am I reaching a tad too far with that one?

[The Grand Nudger]

Australia is part of the axis of evil that russia is valiantly attempting to defend itself from now by invading ukraine, ofc.

[The Architect Of Fate]

You have been an endless fount of knowledge and insight, expressed in the most tasteful manner possible,

And you have been an endless fount of Bullshit and apologist Flim flam all expressed in a manner only man with his head firmly wedged up his own posterior would be capable of 

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The only response 

[Dundee]

I think it's unlikely that Putin is going to invade Ukraine (not impossible, though). The massing of troops on the border was meant to pressure NATO into giving Putin concessions he wants - no expansion of NATO, reduction to 1997 levels, and so on. This is clearly not working. Putin's savvy enough to know when his bluff has been called, and that a protracted occupation of Ukraine is something Russia can't afford.

Boru

Written in January 2022

[Anomalocaris]

At work.

when some countries get sanctioned to hell for justified invasion while other get off scott free trashing whole regions just trying to aggrandize itself, that hardly make criticism instigated by the latter anymore than worthless self-serving noise.

Yes  thank you for continuing your conversation with the other posters. Kudos Mate.

 So I gather that's a 'Yes', then? Australia etc can happily call Putin et all a right bunch of c*nts, right?

 Nice to see you're all on board with the 'Invasion apologetics'.

 Good to know.

Will you be attemping a Godwin any time soon with the old "Hitler was just a misunderstood artist" next? Or am I reaching a tad too far with that one?

 

If Australia participated in the invasion of iraq and failed to apologize or offer compensation, it certainly has no right to criticize Russia even if Russian invasion of Ukraine was unjustified,

In fact it is well justified.   This is unlike any of the invasions the US conducted after WWII, Except the 1950 invasion of North Korea and 1991 invasion of Iraq.   But those two, while justified, were less well justified than the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Of all the invasions the US conducted or planned to conduct after WWII, only the planned 1962 Invasion of cuba would have been equal to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine in necessity and justification, if the Soviets then had been inflexible and refused to withdraw the missiles from cuba.

But the Soviet were flexible then, as the US chose not to be now.    So the Soviets saved the US from having to conduct the justified and necessary invasion,    The US, through its total inflexibility this January. force Russia to conduct the necessary invasion.

So Russia invasion really does not deserve any of the criticism heaped on it, other than perhaps it can be conducted with more efficiency. 

i might say the responsibility of making the Russian invasion so well justified so well justified lies 70% with the US, and only a part of that 70% stems from its recent inflexibility, 20% with the Ukrainians, and 10% with EU and other NATO states.

[Fake Messiah]

In fact it is well justified.   This is unlike any of the invasions the US conducted after WWII, Except the 1950 invasion of North Korea and 1991 invasion of Iraq.   But those two, while justified, were less well justified than the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Of all the invasions the US conducted or planned to conduct after WWII, only the planned 1962 Invasion of cuba would have been equal to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine in necessity and justification, if the Soviets then had been inflexible and refused to withdraw the missiles from cuba.

But the Soviet were flexible then, as the US chose not to be now.    So the Soviets saved the US from having to conduct the justified and necessary invasion,    The US, through its total inflexibility this January. force Russia to conduct the necessary invasion.

That seems like nonsense because there are intercontinental missiles that can be located anywhere, not to mention nuclear submarines, so Ukraine is useless for that.

[Peebothuhlu]

Yes  thank you for continuing your conversation with the other posters. Kudos Mate.

 So I gather that's a 'Yes', then? Australia etc can happily call Putin et all a right bunch of c*nts, right?

 Nice to see you're all on board with the 'Invasion apologetics'.

 Good to know.

Will you be attemping a Godwin any time soon with the old "Hitler was just a misunderstood artist" next? Or am I reaching a tad too far with that one?

 

If Australia participated in the invasion of iraq and failed to apologize or offer compensation, it certainly has no right to criticize Russia even if Russian invasion of Ukraine was unjustified,

In fact it is well justified.   This is unlike any of the invasions the US conducted after WWII, Except the 1950 invasion of North Korea and 1991 invasion of Iraq.   But those two, while justified, were less well justified than the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Of all the invasions the US conducted or planned to conduct after WWII, only the planned 1962 Invasion of cuba would have been equal to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine in necessity and justification, if the Soviets then had been inflexible and refused to withdraw the missiles from cuba.

But the Soviet were flexible then, as the US chose not to be now.    So the Soviets saved the US from having to conduct the justified and necessary invasion,    The US, through its total inflexibility this January. force Russia to conduct the necessary invasion.

So Russia invasion really does not deserve any of the criticism heaped on it, other than perhaps it can be conducted with more efficiency. 

i might say the responsibility of making the Russian invasion so well justified so well justified lies 70% with the US, and only a part of that 70% stems from its recent inflexibility, 20% with the Ukrainians, and 10% with EU and other NATO states.

So... Not even people who might be associated with military actions in other countys get a comment on how Russia behaves with its neighbours?

What ever. You keep on doing you with your rape appologetics invasion appologetics.

May some one happily fek over your neck of the woods with justified military actions.... In minecraft.

Not at work.

[The Architect Of Fate]

No country X has every right to criticize country Y if they are invading. Arguments from hypocrisy don't mean a damn thing in international relations. Iraqi is over no one can undo it and apologizing is just pissing in the wind and you can't compensate for the destruction of a country and no Russia has no justification for this invasion period any more than America did in Cuba. Imperialism is bullshit regardless of who's doing it. But right now Russia is doing it and no Ukraine has no obligation to be "flexible" any more than Russia had to be with Cuba. If Putin doesn't like that tough cookies.


So yeah no Russia deserve all the criticism it's getting

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If Australia participated in the invasion of iraq and failed to apologize or offer compensation, it certainly has no right to criticize Russia even if Russian invasion of Ukraine was unjustified,

In fact it is well justified.   This is unlike any of the invasions the US conducted after WWII, Except the 1950 invasion of North Korea and 1991 invasion of Iraq.   But those two, while justified, were less well justified than the current Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Of all the invasions the US conducted or planned to conduct after WWII, only the planned 1962 Invasion of cuba would have been equal to the current Russian invasion of Ukraine in necessity and justification, if the Soviets then had been inflexible and refused to withdraw the missiles from cuba.

But the Soviet were flexible then, as the US chose not to be now.    So the Soviets saved the US from having to conduct the justified and necessary invasion,    The US, through its total inflexibility this January. force Russia to conduct the necessary invasion.

So Russia invasion really does not deserve any of the criticism heaped on it, other than perhaps it can be conducted with more efficiency. 

i might say the responsibility of making the Russian invasion so well justified so well justified lies 70% with the US, and only a part of that 70% stems from its recent inflexibility, 20% with the Ukrainians, and 10% with EU and other NATO states.

So... Not even people who might be associated with military actions in other countys get a comment on how Russia behaves with its neighbours?

What ever. You keep on doing you with your rape appologetics invasion appologetics.

May some one happily fek over your neck of the woods with justified military actions.... In minecraft.

Not at work.

But you have to be "Flexible" (give in to murderous dickhead delusions he gets a say in another country's future )