Russia and Ukraine

[arewethereyet]

Says the tractor expert.

you see, you don’t need to be any expert about tractors to tell, you only need to known anything at all about tractors,

or not having any specific knowledge about tractors, having very general knowledge of how remote enabled machinery works from engineering perspective would suffice.  

and you seem not to.have neither, but are seething with resentment towards people who have bare minimum of knowledge and aren’t quite so completely ignorant.

See that kid on the tractor?  That's me.  Having grown up in farm country, I have some knowledge of tractors.  Have you ever seen one in the wild?

It must be wonderful to be so impressed with yourself.  You talk a lot and say very little.

[The Grand Nudger]

What's in the shed behind that trike?

[arewethereyet]

Farm equipment, grain, hay...the downstairs is actually the barn itself where grandpa milked the cows and kept bulls contained.

His setup was pretty primitive but it worked for him. I loved that place so much.

[Anomalocaris]

you see, you don’t need to be any expert about tractors to tell, you only need to known anything at all about tractors,

or not having any specific knowledge about tractors, having very general knowledge of how remote enabled machinery works from engineering perspective would suffice.  

and you seem not to.have neither, but are seething with resentment towards people who have bare minimum of knowledge and aren’t quite so completely ignorant.

See that kid on the tractor?  That's me.  Having grown up in farm country, I have some knowledge of tractors.  Have you ever seen one in the wild?

It must be wonderful to be so impressed with yourself.  You talk a lot and say very little.

and none of that lets you know anything about how remote enabling works, or what capabilities are usually associatwd with high end remote enabled tractors.   

It is kinda understandable in a psychiatric way, if not respectable in any moral way, for someone who sat in a car back in 1963,  but hasn’t learned anything since, to bitterly resent the fact that anyone with just a little bit more general knowledge would know more key elements of modern automobile functionality then he/she. 

I am not a know it all.  i am in fact a know very few things.   but that very few things seem to be the entire difference in our states of knowledge and you just can’t deal with it.

[arewethereyet]

See that kid on the tractor?  That's me.  Having grown up in farm country, I have some knowledge of tractors.  Have you ever seen one in the wild?

It must be wonderful to be so impressed with yourself.  You talk a lot and say very little.

and none of that lets you know anything about how remote enabling works, or what capabilities are usually associatwd with high end remote enabled tractors.   

It is kinda understandable in a psychiatric way, if not respectable in any moral way, for someone who sat in a car back in 1963,  but hasn’t learned anything since, to bitterly resent the fact that anyone with just a little bit more general knowledge would know more key elements of modern automobile functionality then he/she. 

I am not a know it all.  i am in face a know very few things.   but that very few things seem to be the entire difference in our states of knowledge and you just can’t deal with it.

Bold mine - yep, you are the smart one in your face.

[Anomalocaris]

even that bit of infinitesimal make belief wit is enough to give you all the depth you have.

[arewethereyet]

even that bit of infinitesimal make belief wit is enough to give you all the depth you have.

*make believe

[Anomalocaris]

I feel like I'm missing something..but I'm entirely sure that no idea about tractors (however misinformed or expertly derived) can explain why a person would contend that invading a neighboring sovereign state was an issue of forced passivity.  Such that some third party to conflict owned said conflict.

That shit..is bananapants, and doesn't even allow a person to claim agency for the great and masterful putin.

A person may have the agency to do the right thing or not.  but there is little doubt for a russian nationalist, no more strident in his nationalism than ordinary “patriot” in ukraine or anywhere else, but with some clear headed foresight, using forceful measure to subdue ukraine when it otherwise might enter into a hostile alliance, if other means have been tried abs did not avail is absolutely the right thing, because in 25 or 50 year a total defeat in the effort would be no worse for russia than not doing this. 

what you are attempting to assert is everyone should be held responsible for doing the thing that we deem to be right because it suits our own interests, and the fact that it is wrong thing by their lights is no excuse because they have the agency to do the wrong thing, and should, for our convenience.

[The Grand Nudger]

Little doubt...to you...... I have many doubts. I think that a given russian nationalist could have all of these same doubts. And should, if they're nationalists in anything other than a jingoistic understanding of the set.

I'm asserting no such thing, and your repeated attempts to hang that on me show how vacuous and fucking idiotic your stance is, in mere reality. Is there anything you'd like to disclose?

Russia, and Russia alone, is responsible for their (now known to be) ill-fated decision to invade a neighboring state. Nothing, and no action from any other nation...can change that. Vae Victus.

[Anomalocaris]

no, war and Russian invasion of Ukraine is an predictable, and clearly predicted by western cold war strategists during the 1990s including the doyen of cold war strategists George Kennan, consequences of the drive to expand NATO to russian border.

embarking on an completely elective effort with a predictable and clearly predicted end point and then try to pin the blame for the end point exclusively on the agency of others is how shall we describe it, somewhere between blinkered, dishonest and thuggish?