Russia and Ukraine

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Ukraine: ‘That’s it - we’re joining NATO!’

Russia: ‘You can’t join NATO if you’re in a war.’

Ukraine: ‘It’s not a war, it’s a “special military operation”. You said so yourself.’

Russia: ‘That doesn’t matter. You can’t join NATO if there are battles in your territory.’

Ukraine: ‘There ARE no battles in our territory. You just annexed all the places where the battles are - it’s YOUR territory.’

Russia:

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

When I went to sleep, there were reports of ukr troops 20km deep in a breakthrough on the kherson front..when I woke up...72km deep. Russian reports, lol.

Perhaps the russians in kherson should get a headstart on running, or phoning home with their last goodbyes? Wouldn't want to end up like those poor fucks in izyum and lyman. OFC that's not the message from russian propagandists, they think that the troops in kherson should prepare for urban combat, stand and die. I really do wonder how long it's going to take every russian grunt to realize that the ukr forces aren't their actual enemy in this conflict.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The Ukrainians are now prepping for another encirclement, driving wedges and spreading them. this time in the south behind Kherson, endangering 25,000 Russian troops if not more.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Russia Celebrates the imaginary victory of their supposed Annexation of parts of Ukraine 



Ukraine celebrates a real victory in their liberation of  Lyman!!!

[The Architect Of Fate]

[Thumpalumpacus]

When I went to sleep, there were reports of ukr troops 20km deep in a breakthrough on the kherson front..when I woke up...72km deep.  Russian reports, lol.  

Perhaps the russians in kherson should get a headstart on running, or phoning home with their last goodbyes?  Wouldn't want to end up like those poor fucks in izyum and lyman.  OFC that's not the message from russian propagandists, they think that the troops in kherson should prepare for urban combat, stand and die.  I really do wonder how long it's going to take every russian grunt to realize that the ukr forces aren't their actual enemy in this conflict.

You'd think the Russians would have learned something about Hitler's stand-and-fight, festung orders.

Of course, the last month of Ukrainian victories has been brought about precisely because Russians aren't doing stan-and-fight, but rather unassing a position before getting toasted.

This video has not only some footage (not much) of a small Ukrainian armored operation, but interviews with the solders who fought that are very informative. These guys have a quiet confidence to them. One of them mentions the use of combined-arms ops, it's noted that the Ukrainian commander used drones for a better view of the battle.

I feel sorry for those 300,000 conscripts. Granted that the number looks huge, but looking at the quality of the troops in this video, I feel sorry for those Russian draftees, in a way.

[The Architect Of Fate]

An interview with a former Soviet Soldier 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I’m no military theorist, but it seems odd to annex territory that you don’t control.

Also, I now own Tibet, because I said so.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

The russian defensive line north of kherson has collapsed.

UKR appears to have brought alot of armor to this one - they intend to pound the living shit out of hardened targets at close range. Not a good day to be a russian huddling in a bunker with no food, ammo, comms, or air support. These poor fucks can't even get a cold weather jacket anymore, according to russia.

[The Grand Nudger]

-and in related news, but for an interesting aside - ukraine has claimed to have commandeered a russian uav of iranian manufacture with munitions aboard and all. As these drones are understood to be knockoffs of us analogs - one wonders who keyed them into the vulnerabilities of their design. An example of ukraine boosting something that;s good for their own interests...that may not be in the interests of the us to divulge, even as propaganda or mere possibility.

While it's not an industry secret that uavs and their payloads are susceptible to being commandeered - many claims by the us gov and other agencies have been designed to imply that they are not - and it may be more difficult for governments to justify launching drone wars if there was a greater realization of the reality of their use, it's limitations, and it's risks.