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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 9, 2023 at 1:29 pm
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 12:37 am
(February 9, 2023 at 1:22 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Fury in Ukraine as Elon Musk’s SpaceX limits Starlink use for drones
Another data point to show how far Elon has fallen down the alt-right rabbit hole.
Just as obvious, countries should now avoid relying upon any Musk enterprise in order to avoid this sort of leverage. I'd like to see NASA review its contracts with SpaceX, for one. We wouldn't want our national space program beholden to the whims of some twatwaffle like Musk, I shouldn't think.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 12:51 am
(February 9, 2023 at 1:22 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Fury in Ukraine as Elon Musk’s SpaceX limits Starlink use for drones
Another data point to show how far Elon has fallen down the alt-right rabbit hole.
He says he doesn't want people using his inventions for war.
Is this a right-wing attitude? It used to be that the right wing is generally pro-war, while the left is against. But I suppose all that has changed now.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 1:20 am
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Quote:He says he doesn't want people using his inventions for war.
Lol and you freaking believe him
https://www.businessinsider.com/musks-sp...ts-2020-10
https://observer.com/2020/10/elon-musk-s...r-weapons/
Funny he didn't problem with that when he agreed to this could there be another reason he wants to sabotage Ukraine's efforts?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...-proposal/
Quote:Is this a right-wing attitude? It used to be that the right-wing is generally pro-war, while the left is against it. But I suppose all that has changed now.
Yes considering the right is essentially routing for Putin and you keep confusing pro-war with pro-defense or anti-Russian -invasion. Republicans by contrast were all for being the invaders.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 3:21 am
Pro war? You know who is most pro war? The guy who started the war. The guy who deliberately is targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That guy is pro fucking war.
But yes, i am pro war too as it can get, when its about defending a country from invasion. I am pro war, but at least i am not pro invasion, like Bel.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 3:36 am
Prince Charles: 'Putin is behaving just like Hitler'
Prince Charles has sensationally likened Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler.
In a withering verdict on the actions of the Russian president in Ukraine, he told a woman who lost relatives in the Nazi Holocaust: ‘And now Putin is doing just about the same as Hitler.’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...raine.html
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 10:07 am
(February 10, 2023 at 3:21 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Pro war? You know who is most pro war? The guy who started the war. The guy who deliberately is targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That guy is pro fucking war.
But yes, i am pro war too as it can get, when its about defending a country from invasion. I am pro war, but at least i am not pro invasion, like Bel.
You're goddamned straight. And we ain't pro-rape-loot-torture-murder, unlike this piece of shit Bel.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 11:55 am
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I think that some people manage to convince themselves that, war being so terrible, it's best if it ends and even if that means russia gobbles up ukraine. Unfortunately, this is false, even a surrender wouldn't save ukrainian people from the future russia intends for them, and models in the present. Stolen children. Reeducation centers. Labor camps. War crimes. The cruelty and the killing wouldn't end if the war did, there simply wouldn't be anyone fighting for them anymore.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 12:10 pm
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(February 10, 2023 at 12:37 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (February 9, 2023 at 1:22 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Fury in Ukraine as Elon Musk’s SpaceX limits Starlink use for drones
Another data point to show how far Elon has fallen down the alt-right rabbit hole.
Just as obvious, countries should now avoid relying upon any Musk enterprise in order to avoid this sort of leverage. I'd like to see NASA review its contracts with SpaceX, for one. We wouldn't want our national space program beholden to the whims of some twatwaffle like Musk, I shouldn't think.
It's not the first time. He blocked access in annexed crimea as well. I find it interesting that these very strongly held moral principles that musk has just keep aligning with the interests of the invader. Then again, musks interests are intrinsically bound to putins. The current value of his business empire is directly tied to assumptions about future growth in china and india, for example.
Or did anyone think that tesla was actually worth more than toyota, volkswagon, daimler, ford, and gm...combined?
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 10, 2023 at 1:00 pm
(February 10, 2023 at 11:55 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I think that some people manage to convince themselves that, war being so terrible, it's best if it ends and even if that means russia gobbles up ukraine. Unfortunately, this is false, even a surrender wouldn't save ukrainian people from the future russia intends for them, and models in the present. Stolen children. Reeducation centers. Labor camps. War crimes. The cruelty and the killing wouldn't end if the war did, there simply wouldn't be anyone fighting for them anymore.
Quoth Ernesto Zapata: "I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees."
The Ukrainians exemplify this. This is the Battle of Britain of our era, and just as back then, we owe the beleaguered our support, in my opinion.
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