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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 12, 2023 at 10:47 am)Leonardo17 Wrote:
(February 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm)Belacqua Wrote: US personnel participate in attacks.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/202...ry-russia/

Quote:Senior Pentagon officials:

"“We have long acknowledged that we share intelligence with Ukraine to assist them in defending their country against Russian aggression, and we have optimized over time how we share information to be able to support their requests and their targeting processes at improved speed and scale,” Brig. Gen. Patrick Ryder, a Pentagon spokesman, said in the statement. “The Ukrainians are responsible for finding targets, prioritizing them and then ultimately deciding which ones to engage. The U.S. does not approve targets, nor are we involved in the selection or engagement of targets.”

If we go by the standards the Pentagon uses, the locations from which the US assists with missile strikes have become legitimate military targets. Don't see how anything bad could come from that.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Excellent speech here by a historian who understands that the real import of the Ukraine war is economics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAUD1gxEWxE
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:If we go by the standards the Pentagon uses, the locations from which the US assists with missile strikes have become legitimate military targets. Don't see how anything bad could come from that.
And now you double down to conspiracies after having your ignorance exposed. It's also hilarious you criticize the Pentagon while Russia strikes hospitals and schools and acknowledges it on purpose.
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: Russia and Ukraine
A speech by a moron who honestly thinks ww3 is happening ... Dodgy

It's truly amazing to see all these terrible takes by supposed intellectuals. It's there can neither handle the simplicity of what's going on nor the idea that someone other than the united states can be the bad guy. The idea that Putin can't just be a power-hungry thug with a good PR team despite everything we know about him shows that to be the case and that Russia just has territorial ambitions and that instead there must be some deep philosophical interplay. It's very disturbing.
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 12, 2023 at 8:31 pm)Belacqua Wrote: If we go by the standards the Pentagon uses, the locations from which the US assists with missile strikes have become legitimate military targets. Don't see how anything bad could come from that.

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That nutball I linked a video to said pretty much the same thing - while wondering why his beloved russia couldn't do a fucking thing about it, between casually suggested that russia should preemptively nuke london..or paris.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 13, 2023 at 12:39 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That nutball I linked a video to said pretty much the same thing - while wondering why his beloved russia couldn't do a fucking thing about it, between casually suggested that russia should preemptively nuke london..or paris.

What we say down here is "shit or get off'n the pot". I'm not sure why anyone is impressed by Russian nuclear threats, given that it's been nine months of talkin' and not one glowing bulb. Swingin' the threat is usually a good indication you don't won't to do it ... a guy able to kick your ass will kick your ass ass first and explain it later.

*Crickets*

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And all this comes under the assumption of the condition of Russia's Nuclear Arsenal. Considering the condition of their conventional forces I kind of shudder to think of what a horror story that is.
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
I think they might want to focus on their invasion in ukraine before they start a war with nato. It seems like it would be imprudent to launch the latter if you cant manage the former. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time vlad made a boo-boo. Handily exposing the batshit mental knots russian apologists tie themselves into.

"Russia is a rational actor pursuing it's legitimate interests in ukraine, and if people don't stop meddling they'll turn the earth to glass!"

Jerkoff
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
What do you know, Russian propagandist Vladimir Solovyov, who constantly demands men go to die in Ukraine and threatens NATO, has his son just signing with a modeling agency in London, and not with the Russian army to go to Ukraine.

https://www.perild.com/2023/02/12/nails-...-solovyov/



Slavoj Žižek recently had an interesting opinion piece on what is going on in Russia.

Quote:The Russian state’s ideological madness and reversion to warlordism have been abetted by a religious fundamentalism that openly celebrates death in the name of achieving a god-like status. As Vladimir Putin’s propagandists are telling Russians, “Life is overrated.”

Rumors are flying about veiled jockeying within Russia over who will replace President Vladimir Putin, now that his war of aggression in Ukraine has gone so disastrously wrong. Such a struggle cannot fail to expose the morbid pathologies of Russian politics. The key players are not organized political parties but rather gangs of oligarchs who preside over various informal nodes of power.

This explains why Russia’s most effective military force on the front line in Ukraine, the mercenary Wagner Group, is not even a part of the Russian army. Russia is now a land of warlords, something one generally associates with rogue and failed states. Its current and aspiring leaders are trafficking in fever dreams of battlefield glory. Implicit in this martial culture is a Hobbesian view of life as solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short – and increasingly cheap.

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commen...ek-2023-02
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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