Russia and Ukraine

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Fake Messiah]

[Rev. Rye]

[Irreligious Atheist]

The PM of Israel is not merely an expert, as you put it. So you don't think the ex-PM of Israel or former Presidents like Bill Clinton are in the know about world events, and you imagine that because of their lack of knowledge and being in the dark, they have to make guesses based on what they see on the news, and they are subject to blind spots with those guesses. That's your position. Not misrepresenting it.

And that opinion of yours, is naive as shit. When you're in these elite circles, you are told what is going on. If you think Bill Clinton or the ex PM of Israel aren't privy to the goings ons of the world and that they have to make due with guess work like the rest of us schlubs, then you are free to have that opinion I guess. We have Christians and Muslims on here talking about just as crazy of ideas as you just brought up, so why not bring in your crazy too? Extreme ignorance is welcome here. Hopefully you learn a thing or two over your stay here. Cheers.

No, you were  the one who said even experts can get it wrong. Why are you bow trying to turn this around, unless you are indeed full of shit and yourself, which is, by the bye, my opinion of you?

You wrote:

Highly qualified people have blinders on and get things wrong all of the time. Qualifications or not, you were shown to be wrong, and the Israeli PM confirmed the obvious, which anyone with eyes to see could see nearly a year ago.

So is your Israeli premier "highly qualified"? Does he escape your scrutiny because he has a title?

You have not shown evidence for what you think is "obvious", except to quote someone who is in your opinion "highly qualified", while at the same time you have not laid out his qualifications nor solid evidence to back up his claim. You've said his word is enough, but you've also said that the words of "highly qualified" people can still be wrong.

Do you now see your mental lapse? I do. In short, this is an appeal to authority. The fact that you don't yourself recognize this marks you as a slipshod thinker.

Haha yes it is an appeal to authority and 100 pieces of other information on the ground pointing to the exact thing that authority on the matter is saying. And you know why I don't question it? If anything, you'd imagine that Western elitists would want to hide the reality that the US scuttled the peace deal, so if the Israeli PM had said that the deal was not scuttled, then I would not believe him. He came out with a piece of knowledge that you'd think the mainstream wouldn't necessarily want us to know, and something that caused the mainstream to go into damage control, so this is why the Israeli PM was telling the truth. Just look at all of the red flags. They are all there. He knows what he's saying, and why do you keep equating someone with expertise in a field, to someone like a PM or a Clinton or a Bush or a Rumsfeld, who is literally given the information about what is going on in the world? They are not doing guess work, so there is no room for the blind spots to come in, so I don't know why you keep going on about this.

But I'm glad you admitted as much, that you don't understand how PMs and Bushes and Clintons have all of the information about the workings of the world that they want. Blind spots aren't an issue when you have real knowledge. What you are doing by asking for proof and basically enough to convict someone in court, is playing judge and jury here, and playing dumb. What we have here, is basically a tape of a mob leader saying he's about to put out a hit on someone, and then a day later, the person ends up thrown into the lake, and you're sitting here going, but you're only appealing to the authority of the mob boss and taking his word for it. You didn't see the man get murdered or thrown in the water. Where's your real proof, huh? The mob boss and his men are innocent, I tells ya. Cringe.  

[Thumpalumpacus]

Haha yes it is an appeal to authority and 100 pieces of other information on the ground pointing to the exact thing that authority on the matter is saying. And you know why I don't question it? If anything, you'd imagine that Western elitists would want to hide the reality that the US scuttled the peace deal, so if the Israeli PM had said that the deal was not scuttled, then I would not believe him. He came out with a piece of knowledge that you'd think the mainstream wouldn't necessarily want us to know, and something that caused the mainstream to go into damage control, so this is why the Israeli PM was telling the truth. Just look at all of the red flags. They are all there. He knows what he's saying, and why do you keep equating someone with expertise in a field, to someone like a PM or a Clinton or a Bush or a Rumsfeld, who is literally given the information about what is going on in the world? They are not doing guess work, so there is no room for the blind spots to come in, so I don't know why you keep going on about this.

So you are happy to say that experts can be wrong, but the guy you think is an expert cannot be wrong. Here, ya blowhard --

That's what I think of your slipshod nonsense. You're a bunch of blather, panties in a wad, but you don't even have the thinking to see why you've shot yourself in the foot.

But I'm glad you admitted as much, that you don't understand how PMs and Bushes and Clintons have all of the information about the workings of the world that they want.

Well, first, I made no admission at all, and secondly, if you think you understand anything at all you'd ought to start demonstrating it forthwith. Not all politicians have all information at all times, but I have to confess your faith is charming.

Blind spots aren't an issue when you have real knowledge. What you are doing by asking for proof and basically enough to convict someone in court, is playing judge and jury here, and playing dumb. What we have here, is basically a tape of a mob leader saying he's about to put out a hit on someone, and then a day later, the person ends up thrown into the lake, and you're sitting here going, but you're only appealing to the authority of the mob boss and taking his word for it. You didn't see the man get murdered or thrown in the water. Where's your real proof, huh? The mob boss and his men are innocent, I tells ya. Cringe.  

Dude, put the pipe down, you're rambling now. If you have real knowledge, throw down. Let's see some in=depth articles showing how the one guy had it right and everyone else wrong. If you think your Israeli is an authority on negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, again -- throw down. Give me facts. Everything I've read says that the peace talks broke down because the Russians would not concede Crimea. If you know and can source credibly otherwise, let's see your cards.

Alternatively, if you can't, you should probably start learning phrases like "I think" or "in my opinion" or "I might be full of shit, but ...". Just a friendly suggestion ... "bro".

What's that? You don't have facts? Then your guess is as good as mine, and I trust myself before I trust your dumb ass. You're some schlub online I don't know from a can of paint, and quite frankly doesn't present much insight. I'll think for myself and you can fulminate in your own good time, dingbat.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Haha yes it is an appeal to authority and 100 pieces of other information on the ground pointing to the exact thing that authority on the matter is saying. And you know why I don't question it? If anything, you'd imagine that Western elitists would want to hide the reality that the US scuttled the peace deal, so if the Israeli PM had said that the deal was not scuttled, then I would not believe him. He came out with a piece of knowledge that you'd think the mainstream wouldn't necessarily want us to know, and something that caused the mainstream to go into damage control, so this is why the Israeli PM was telling the truth. Just look at all of the red flags. They are all there. He knows what he's saying, and why do you keep equating someone with expertise in a field, to someone like a PM or a Clinton or a Bush or a Rumsfeld, who is literally given the information about what is going on in the world? They are not doing guess work, so there is no room for the blind spots to come in, so I don't know why you keep going on about this.

So you are happy to say that experts can be wrong, but the guy you think is an expert cannot be wrong. Here, ya blowhard --

That's what I think of your slipshod nonsense. You're a bunch of blather, panties in a wad, but you don't even have the thinking to see why you've shot yourself in the foot.

But I'm glad you admitted as much, that you don't understand how PMs and Bushes and Clintons have all of the information about the workings of the world that they want.

Well, first, I made no admission at all, and secondly, if you think you understand anything at all you'd ought to start demonstrating it forthwith. Not all politicians have all information at all times, but I have to confess your faith is charming.

Blind spots aren't an issue when you have real knowledge. What you are doing by asking for proof and basically enough to convict someone in court, is playing judge and jury here, and playing dumb. What we have here, is basically a tape of a mob leader saying he's about to put out a hit on someone, and then a day later, the person ends up thrown into the lake, and you're sitting here going, but you're only appealing to the authority of the mob boss and taking his word for it. You didn't see the man get murdered or thrown in the water. Where's your real proof, huh? The mob boss and his men are innocent, I tells ya. Cringe.  

Dude, put the pipe down, you're rambling now. If you have real knowledge, throw down. Let's see some in=depth articles showing how the one guy had it right and everyone else wrong. If you think your Israeli is an authority on negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, again -- throw down. Give me facts. Everything I've read says that the peace talks broke down because the Russians would not concede Crimea. If you know and can source credibly otherwise, let's see your cards.

Alternatively, if you can't, you should probably start learning phrases like "I think" or "in my opinion" or "I might be full of shit, but ...". Just a friendly suggestion ... "bro".

What's that? You don't have facts? Then your guess is as good as mine, and I trust myself before I trust your dumb ass. You're some schlub online I don't know from a can of paint, and quite frankly doesn't present much insight. I'll think for myself and you can fulminate in your own good time, dingbat.

IA acting like a big shot when he fell for a blatant falsehood about his own source.

[The Grand Nudger]

This has been one of the more tiresome bits of bullshit about the war. The us scuttled some peace deal that vlad would never have stuck with even if it existed. Okay, how? By saying we'd give them weapons? Think it through.....

[Leonardo17]

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