A "meta-argument" against all future arguments for God's existence ?

[R00tKiT]

[Fake Messiah]

An atheist shouldn't really talk much about delusions, you know.

You are invoking sharia.

Tell me, @Fake Messiah, absent a god, how do you trust your naturally evolved brain to be a reliable tool to investigate reality, and not a delusion? 

You obviously gave up long time ago on having a coherent discussion.

[Nay_Sayer]

An atheist shouldn't really talk much about delusions, you know.

You are invoking sharia.

Tell me, @Fake Messiah, absent a god, how do you trust your naturally evolved brain to be a reliable tool to investigate reality, and not a delusion? 

You obviously gave up long time ago on having a coherent discussion.

  More precisely he gave up being coherent period long ago

[The Architect Of Fate]

You are invoking sharia.


You obviously gave up long time ago on having a coherent discussion.

  More precisely he gave up being coherent period long ago

Was he ever coherent?

[Fake Messiah]

I think you're becoming a bit obsessed of spotting fallacies. So obsessed in fact, that you're starting to imagine them.

But not as obsessed as you are with making them. Others were already pointing out how you were Quote mining Hume (logical fallacy), and yet you still confidently persist in doing it no matter how many people try to correct you - so you see how you fit the formula.

[The Grand Nudger]

Obviously, the intelligent design of nature is a delusion

An atheist shouldn't really talk much about delusions, you know.

Tell me, @Fake Messiah, absent a god, how do you trust your naturally evolved brain to be a reliable tool to investigate reality, and not a delusion? 

It isn't.  It's a reliable tool for finding dinner, and avoiding becoming that dinner.  To do other things with it requires all sorts of models and systems and rigor in applying them.  That much should be obvious, on account of how much the human brain all by it's onesies got so hilariously wrong.

Things like djinn in the desert handing child fucking warlords the keys to the chocolate factory.

God already expressed his omnibenevolence when he created you and endowed you with life, health, income, shelter, and so on, and so on, and so on.. But, being the ungrateful moron that you are, you turn your back on him and complain about why people are getting raped. An eternal afterlife is enough (duh) to redress the dramatic injustice in this life, imagine a rapist getting 30 years of inhuman torture for his crime, I bet you will start to pity him despite his wrongdoing (after he got 30 years of relentless suffering) and think this is justice enough.. now imagine him getting 300 years like that, or 3000, ... Seriously, eternity is enough. And anyone arguing otherwise doesn't really understand what eternity means.

Hey don't worry about the rape kid - got a lollipop for you and a torture party for him.  Punch and pie in the sky! This, right here, is why no one can turn their back on a person like you. Disgusting.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

[R00tKiT]

But not as obsessed as you are with making them. Others were already pointing out how you were Quote mining Hume (logical fallacy), and yet you still confidently persist in doing it no matter how many people try to correct you - so you see how you fit the formula.

Now you're either being dishonest or didn't read the whole thread. I said repeatedly that Hume rejects the design argument, the quote is ONLY intended to be a presentation of this argument, not a defense of it. This is not quote mining, because I am not relying on the quote in my argument, which you didn't addess at all.

Hey don't worry about the rape kid - got a lollipop for you and a torture party for him.  Punch and pie in the sky!  This, right here, is why no one can turn their back on a person like you.  Disgusting.

You're belittling the afterlife only because you don't believe in it. If you think about it seriously, you would know it's enough to redress all kinds of injustice.

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Just to be clear, are you saying we shouldn’t  punish rapists in the here-and-now because God will handle their punishment in the afterlife?

Be aware that I’m giving you the chance to explain yourself. It’s kind of important.

Boru

@BrianSoddingBoru4 Of course not. Where did I say that?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

But not as obsessed as you are with making them. Others were already pointing out how you were Quote mining Hume (logical fallacy), and yet you still confidently persist in doing it no matter how many people try to correct you - so you see how you fit the formula.

Now you're either being dishonest or didn't read the whole thread. I said repeatedly that Hume rejects the design argument, the quote is ONLY intended to be a presentation of this argument, not a defense of it. This is not quote mining, because I am not relying on the quote in my argument, which you didn't addess at all.

Hey don't worry about the rape kid - got a lollipop for you and a torture party for him.  Punch and pie in the sky!  This, right here, is why no one can turn their back on a person like you.  Disgusting.

You're belittling the afterlife only because you don't believe in it. If you think about it seriously, you would know it's enough to redress all kinds of injustice.

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Just to be clear, are you saying we shouldn’t  punish rapists in the here-and-now because God will handle their punishment in the afterlife?

Be aware that I’m giving you the chance to explain yourself. It’s kind of important.

Boru

@BrianSoddingBoru4 Of course not. Where did I say that?

I didn’t say you said that. I was asking for clarification.

Boru

[Deesse23]

imagine a rapist getting 30 years of inhuman torture for his crime, I bet you will start to pity him despite his wrongdoing (after he got 30 years of relentless suffering) and think this is justice enough.. now imagine him getting 300 years like that, or 3000, ... Seriously, eternity is enough.

Infinte punishment for finite crimes.

Disgusting.

And anyone arguing otherwise doesn't really understand what eternity means.

...says a guy with a moral compass skewed beyond recognition.

Just to be clear, are you saying we shouldn’t  punish rapists in the here-and-now because God will handle their punishment in the afterlife?

Be aware that I’m giving you the chance to explain yourself. It’s kind of important.

Boru

@BrianSoddingBoru4 Of course not. Where did I say that?

You are now either advocating infinite punishment for finite crimes plus finite punishment, or you are backpedaling.
My bet is on #2