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How to select which supernatural to believe?
RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 7:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 6:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But is is the most widely accepted answer for the origin of the universe. It is the "Big Bang theory" written in ancient Arabic language in the verse above:

https://education.nationalgeographic.org...iverse-101

Blink twice if the attendants are withholding your meds. We’ll see what we can do.

Boru

Look, accusing the preacher with "insanity" is as ancient as hell, it's even a given fact in the Quran:


Quote:Sura 51, The Quran:
https://quran.com/51?startingVerse=52

(52) Thus in no way did (any) Messenger come up to the ones even before them except that they said, "A sorcerer or a madman."

(53) Have they enjoined (this saying) one to another? No indeed, (but) they are an inordinate people.

(54) Then turn back from them; so in no way are you blameworthy.

(55) And remind; then surely reminding profits the believers.

— Dr. Ghali


So..meh Boru.
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 8:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 6:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote: But is is the most widely accepted answer for the origin of the universe. It is the "Big Bang theory" written in ancient Arabic language in the verse above:

https://education.nationalgeographic.org...iverse-101


Quote:Although the novel was written before the RMS Titanic was even conceptualized, there are some uncanny similarities between the fictional and real-life versions. Like the Titanic, the fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic, and there were not enough lifeboats for all the passengers. There are also similarities in size (800 ft [244 m] long for the Titan versus 882 ft 9 in [269 m] long for the Titanic), speed, and life-saving equipment. After the Titanic's sinking, some people credited Robertson with precognition and clairvoyance, which he denied. Scholars attribute the similarities to Robertson's extensive knowledge of shipbuilding and maritime trends.

Wikipedia -- The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility

So, according to you, even if the fact was stated 1400 years ago in the Quran that the universe is a product of an "explosion caused by God"; the big bang theory is the one and only origin ? and the 1400 years old verse in the Quran was "a mere similarity"?

Weird..In contrast, I think that science just proved that the Quran is real. Achieving this verse:


Quote:Sura 41, The Quran:
https://quran.com/41?startingVerse=53

(54) We will soon show them Our signs in the horizons and in themselves until it is evident to them that it is the Truth. And does it not suffice as to your Lord that He is The Ever-Present Witness over everything?

— Dr. Ghali
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
Wow you mean people might think the Koran was written by a nutcase .....What a revelation  Hehe

They also called this guy insane ....Because he was ..... Dodgy

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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
Quote:So, according to you, even if the fact was stated 1400 years ago in the Quran that the universe is a product of an "explosion caused by God"; the big bang theory is the one and only origin ? and the 1400 years old verse in the Quran was "a mere similarity"?

Weird..In contrast, I think that science just proved that the Quran is real. Achieving this verse:
Too bad it does nothing of the kind
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 11:30 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 7:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Blink twice if the attendants are withholding your meds. We’ll see what we can do.

Boru

Look, accusing the preacher with "insanity" is as ancient as hell, it's even a given fact in the Quran:


Quote:Sura 51, The Quran:
https://quran.com/51?startingVerse=52

(52) Thus in no way did (any) Messenger come up to the ones even before them except that they said, "A sorcerer or a madman."

(53) Have they enjoined (this saying) one to another? No indeed, (but) they are an inordinate people.

(54) Then turn back from them; so in no way are you blameworthy.

(55) And remind; then surely reminding profits the believers.

— Dr. Ghali


So..meh Boru.

I agree that accusing preachers of insanity (or at the very least, being mentally aberrant) is a very, very old tradition. 

Why do you think that is?

Boru
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 3:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 5:32 am)GUBU Wrote: You heard it from the hosre's mouth lads, we should just ignore islam.  Thanks for finally admitting it winterhold after years of posting nonsense quotes from the qu'ran.

When I read that a certain book said the following:


Quote:Sura 21, The Quran:
https://quran.com/21?startingVerse=30

(30) Are the disbelievers not aware that the heavens and the earth used to be joined together and that We ripped them apart, that We made every living thing from water? Will they not believe?

[color=var(--color-text-faded)]— Abdul Haleem[/color]

Then I would continue reading in awe, because the verse proved what every scientist said about the origins of the universe.

No need to cojtinuously prove that islam isn't worth following by posting nonsense from the qu'ran. You've done enough to discredit the false religion already.

Oh and by the way the "heavens" and the Earth are not separate, they are both components of one single unified system called the universe. And life isn't made from water, but carbon. Some life needs water, but all lie on Earth (at least) requires carbon. Without carbon or possibly silicon (it can make the same type of polymer chain bonds as carbon does, but nowhere near as easily) life is simply impossible.
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 6:42 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 6:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That’s absolutely NOT what every scientist said about the origin of the universe.

Boru

But is is the most widely accepted answer for the origin of the universe. It is the "Big Bang theory" written in ancient Arabic language in the verse above:

https://education.nationalgeographic.org...iverse-101


Quote: The most widely accepted explanation is the big bang theory. Learn about the explosion that started it all and how the universe grew from the size of an atom to encompass everything in existence today

What you qouted in no way describes the big bang. It explicitly says that the Earth and the space it exists in are two completely separate things, fully divided from each other.

I wonder what the religious authorities in your country would say to you and you making such a nonsense of islam? They're as afraid as you are of the truth getting out.
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(July 31, 2022 at 11:39 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 8:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Wikipedia -- The Wreck of the Titan: Or, Futility

So, according to you, even if the fact was stated 1400 years ago in the Quran that the universe is a product of an "explosion caused by God"; the big bang theory is the one and only origin ? and the 1400 years old verse in the Quran was "a mere similarity"?

Weird..In contrast, I think that science just proved that the Quran is real. Achieving this verse:


Quote:Sura 41, The Quran:
https://quran.com/41?startingVerse=53

(54) We will soon show them Our signs in the horizons and in themselves until it is evident to them that it is the Truth. And does it not suffice as to your Lord that He is The Ever-Present Witness over everything?

— Dr. Ghali

But that’s NOT what the verse you cited says - it says nothing about an explosion, or even an expansion (the more correct term). It says that God separated the heavens from the Earth. This implies that the Earth was a separate and discrete thing, that it was somehow (as GUBU says) not an intrinsic part of the universe.

The Quran gets it wrong again.

Boru
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
(August 1, 2022 at 3:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 11:30 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Look, accusing the preacher with "insanity" is as ancient as hell, it's even a given fact in the Quran:




So..meh Boru.

I agree that accusing preachers of insanity (or at the very least, being mentally aberrant) is a very, very old tradition. 

Why do you think that is?

Boru

I remind you with the story of Galileo, who was accused of "heresy" for believing that earth was not actually the immovable centre of the universe:

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-hist...-of-heresy


Quote:This was the second time that Galileo was in the hot seat for refusing to accept Church orthodoxy that the Earth was the immovable center of the universe: In 1616, he had been forbidden from holding or defending his beliefs. In the 1633 interrogation, Galileo denied that he “held” belief in the Copernican view but continued to write about the issue and evidence as a means of “discussion” rather than belief. The Church had decided the idea that the sun moved around the Earth was an absolute fact of scripture that could not be disputed, despite the fact that scientists had known for centuries that the Earth was not the center of the universe.

Whenever somebody comes to the mainstream with a belief outside the box, the masses jump to stone him, burn him at the stake or simply calling him insane; mad; pariah.
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RE: How to select which supernatural to believe?
I just don't get it -- the Earth is 4.5 Ga old and the Universe is 13.7 Ga. The Earth & Heavens were never "conjoined".
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