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Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
#31
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 1, 2022 at 7:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 1, 2022 at 7:00 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: But... If Quantum Immortality is true... Then euthanised people, just like suiciders, wake up in some paralel world... But with high probability of being paralyzed.

Nonsense. They don't 'wake up' in another world - they have always existed in that other world (precisely the same way that Schrodinger's cat is always alive and always dead). And the probability of them being paralyzed is exactly the same as them not being paralyzed.

You continue to convince me that you don't understand QI at all.

Boru

To me it seems like you do not understand Quantum Immortality. While a person is being euthanised, countless new worlds are being created. In the vast majority of those new worlds, that person is dead because euthanasia succeeded. In some of those new worlds, however, euthanasia has not succeeded. The euthanised person will wake up in one of those worlds... probably with a severely damaged brain.
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#32
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
You have it backwards. When a change occurs, all the potentialities disappear.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#33
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
I'm grateful that I don't understand what is being discussed. I'm much less likely to hurt myself with an overly exuberant face palming.
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#34
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 1, 2022 at 9:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I'm grateful that I don't understand what is being discussed.  I'm much less likely to hurt myself with an overly exuberant face palming.

Thank goodness, I thought I was only one.
  
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#35
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm)Fireball Wrote: You have it backwards. When a change occurs, all the potentialities disappear.

I am not sure what you mean.
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#36
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 1, 2022 at 9:35 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I'm grateful that I don't understand what is being discussed. I'm much less likely to hurt myself with an overly exuberant face palming.

What is it that you don't understand?
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#37
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 2, 2022 at 3:29 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 1, 2022 at 8:02 pm)Fireball Wrote: You have it backwards. When a change occurs, all the potentialities disappear.

I am not sure what you mean.

Think of the waveform as the set of all potentialities. When that waveform collapses, all of those potentialities become a single actuality.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#38
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 1, 2022 at 7:31 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 1, 2022 at 7:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Nonsense. They don't 'wake up' in another world - they have always existed in that other world (precisely the same way that Schrodinger's cat is always alive and always dead). And the probability of them being paralyzed is exactly the same as them not being paralyzed.

You continue to convince me that you don't understand QI at all.

Boru

To me it seems like you do not understand Quantum Immortality. While a person is being euthanised, countless new worlds are being created. In the vast majority of those new worlds, that person is dead because euthanasia succeeded. In some of those new worlds, however, euthanasia has not succeeded. The euthanised person will wake up in one of those worlds... probably with a severely damaged brain.

I defer to you on the topic of severely damaged brains.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#39
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 2, 2022 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 2, 2022 at 3:29 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: I am not sure what you mean.

Think of the waveform as the set of all potentialities. When that waveform collapses, all of those potentialities become a single actuality.

Boru
But if MWI is true, then waveform collapse is a subjective phenomenon. Once we observe the particle, we say the waveform has collapsed, but what has actually happened is that now we know which of the parallel worlds we are in.
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#40
RE: Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true?
(August 2, 2022 at 7:18 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:
(August 2, 2022 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Think of the waveform as the set of all potentialities. When that waveform collapses, all of those potentialities become a single actuality.

Boru
But if MWI is true, then waveform collapse is a subjective phenomenon. Once we observe the particle, we say the waveform has collapsed, but what has actually happened is that now we know which of the parallel worlds we are in.

All phenomena are subjective, the truth or falsity of MWI notwithstanding.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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