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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: How can it be anti-Democratic if it’s been done by each and every democratically elected president using powers given to them by democratically elected senators and representatives?
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As I have mentioned, Jayapal wanted the BBB, a massive piece of legislation, pushed as an Executive Order. Nothing on that scale has been done as an EO.
So, you’re ok with little EOs but not the big ones. This means that some EOs are anti-democratic, but not others?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery in the US. Kentucky and Delaware still had slaves until the 13th amendment. The EP only dealt with the areas in rebellion. At least try.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Helios Wrote: Oh don't be silly I highly doubt the next republican in charge will be elected and the Trump didn't need congress to do what he wanted his sycophants already let him essentially do what he wanted.
At least you did admit you have no problem with Democrats enacting legislation by executive fiat. Kudos. Why even have a Congress? Either side can enact legislation by executive fiat? As for why your country has a congress ask the guy that made it legal to use EOs.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery in the US. Kentucky and Delaware still had slaves until the 13th amendment. The EP only dealt with the areas in rebellion. At least try. Still hardly insignificant 
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:38 pm)Dio Wrote: As I have mentioned, Jayapal wanted the BBB, a massive piece of legislation, pushed as an Executive Order. Nothing on that scale has been done as an EO.
So, you’re ok with little EOs but not the big ones. This means that some EOs are anti-democratic, but not others?
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When a party openly tries to get a piece of legislation made an EO because they can't get enough votes, I'm 100% against that. How that is controversial is unknown to me.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:45 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:41 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:40 pm)Helios Wrote: Nope it's a power given to an ELECTED official
Making sweeping legislation law by executive fiat is not the power given to the President. Says who?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:45 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm)Helios Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm)Dio Wrote: The Emancipation Proclamation didn't end slavery in the US. Kentucky and Delaware still had slaves until the 13th amendment. The EP only dealt with the areas in rebellion. At least try. Still hardly insignificant
Facts are "hardly insignificant".
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:45 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2022 at 8:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I feel the same way about things like the us presidency. 100% against trying to claim it when you can't get the votes. Same with any office on down the line, really. Seems uncontroversial.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:47 pm
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(November 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:43 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, you’re ok with little EOs but not the big ones. This means that some EOs are anti-democratic, but not others?
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When a party openly tries to get a piece of legislation made an EO because they can't get enough votes, I'm 100% against that. How that is controversial is unknown to me. When the only reason they can't get enough votes is that one party has a partisan axe to grind I am 100% against that. How that is controversial is unknown to me.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 27, 2022 at 8:48 pm
(November 27, 2022 at 8:45 pm)Dio Wrote: (November 27, 2022 at 8:44 pm)Helios Wrote: Still hardly insignificant
Facts are "hardly insignificant". I was referring to the proclamation not being insignificant ......
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