The Absurd GOP

[Thumpalumpacus]

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham: “I go back to South Carolina. I’m asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mideast. "

Here's hoping they tell him to go hammer sand up his ass.

[Ivan Denisovich]

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham: “I go back to South Carolina. I’m asking them to send their sons and daughters over to the Mideast. What I want you to do in the Mideast to our friends in Saudi Arabia and other places, step forward and say ‘this is my fight too.’”

Perhaps he should send his son or daughter or go himself if he don't have offspring? It's his fight too apparently.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Perhaps he should send his son or daughter or go himself if he don't have offspring? It's his fight too apparently.  

It's easy to play poker with someone else's money.

I'm just glad, in a way, that my son recently suffered a broken arm -- his artillery unit won't deploy him even if they get tapped for a mission. Graham wanting to send our children while his stay safe? Fuck him ... with a chainsaw.

[The Grand Nudger]

Or maybe we'll learn about maga what the world learned about z russians. They don't like their fathers and sons and husbands. They think they're entitled little abusive shits and would gladly trade them for less than any stated death benefit. Maybe trump has a few unsold teslas laying around. Maybe not...but maybe there's a pile of steaks or sneakers or bibles to pay them out with.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Or maybe we'll learn about maga what the world learned about z russians.  They don't like their fathers and sons and husbands.  They think they're entitled little abusive shits and would gladly trade them for less than any stated death benefit.  Maybe trump has a few unsold teslas laying around.  Maybe not...but maybe there's a pile of steaks or sneakers or bibles to pay them out with.

I think Graham is a used, beat-up neocon laying around on a lemon lot trying to sell himself to anyone looking for some old jalopy. He wants to be the voice of the past when the future of his party is in flux -- and at the same time wants to keep the Bush-era bomb 'em all crowd off his back.

Not that MAGAts aren't wedded to rewards, just that he who chases both hares catches neither.

[Fake Messiah]

The Women Leaving the New Right

Anna’s discomfort with the right’s sexism grew throughout the early 2020s, especially after Elon Musk purchased Twitter and began rewarding the most outrageous and offensive posters. “Over time, the language of New Right misogyny got way more tuned in to red-pill-type stuff,” she says. Among young MAGA men, there ceased to be a huge difference between self-understood trads — Christians who tend to (patronizingly) venerate women’s special contributions to family and religious life — and rageful incels, who see women as conspirators in a plot to deprive them of sex and status. Both groups, Anna says, came to see women as “these objects you can use at will. So if you want a marriage, if you want a lifelong ‘bang maid,’ then you can pursue that. And if you want to just have endless hookups, you can pursue that by using these dating tactics within the red-pill sphere.” Men in the movement who rejected these ideas were nonetheless hesitant to criticize others. “The principle was ‘No enemies to the right,’” Anna says. “So normal conservative men — the good husbands and self-understood nice guys — refused to police the vanguard.”

Anna’s career and income depended heavily on conservative patronage, and by then, she and her husband had several children to support. For a while, she experienced the ramped-up misogyny as primarily an online phenomenon. But sometime during the Biden administration, young men began repeating repulsive manosphere talking points in her presence — that women are irrational and manipulative, good for little but sex and childbearing. They assumed, she says, “because of how I presented myself” — as anti-feminist, as “based” and unbothered — “that I was not like the other girls.” They demonstrated their fealty to MAGA by enthusing about repealing no-fault divorce, gender-discrimination laws, and even the 19th Amendment, which gave women the vote. Often enough, women in the movement would agree. “That was your ticket, your entry point,” Anna says. “It’s a ‘Leave your dignity at the door’ type thing.”

Usually, she silently endured her peers’ soliloquies on women’s deviance and the urgent need to curtail their rights. When she did manage a retort, it was not well received. On one occasion, at a professional dinner, a male acquaintance spewed out some “really gross” things about women (she declines to share details for fear of being identified), and she gently pushed back. “He freaked out,” she says. “He was banging on the table, screaming at me, saying, ‘Nobody cares what you think, woman’ — using the word woman as an invective.” She worried he would become violent. No one at the table came to her defense, men or women.

Now, a growing group of right-wing women — both prominent personalities and loyal foot soldiers — are waking up to find their inclusion in the MAGA movement was contingent. Sexism wasn’t merely the price of entry; it was the theme of the party.

Young women drawn to the cause in recent years for more traditional reasons — religious convictions, pro-life politics, a preference for conventional gender roles — are having a rude awakening of their own, finding that MAGA sexism is not the same as the old patriarchy. On the New Right, male licentiousness, violence, and domination are not only acceptable but valorized.

Some women in MAGA and the broader conservative movement have publicly distanced themselves. They include BASEDPolitics co-founder Hannah Cox (“As someone who used to think ‘feminism’ was a dirty word,” she tweeted last year, “nothing depresses me more than the rise of true misogyny we’re seeing on the right”); the former trad-wife influencer Alice Llani; and Ashley St. Clair, the former Turning Point USA brand ambassador who had a child with Elon Musk, who is fighting her for custody. St. Clair is now an advocate for women facing online abuse.

Anna hears frequently from women who have dedicated years to conservative media who feel “politically homeless” but can’t decide whether to quit. When I ask if there is a way to estimate how significant the problem is for right-wing women, she says, “Every single woman in conservative politics knows exactly what I’m talking about. And if she says she doesn’t, she’s lying.”

The most powerful people in Washington are embracing policy ideas that would have scandalized previous generations of conservatives, reopening arguments that were settled a half a century ago or more. In August, Pete Hegseth shared a video in which Christian-nationalist pastor Douglas Wilson advocates repealing women’s suffrage. Over the past two years, conservative lawmakers in Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas have considered restrictions on no-fault divorce, entertaining the idea of forcibly keeping women in unwanted marriages. Trump’s White House has proposed dismantling the Department of Labor’s Women’s Bureau, rescinded Biden-era guidance for employers about workplace harassment, and eliminated a 60-year-old measure designed to ensure federal contractors abide by anti-discrimination laws — all enabling a return to more hostile workplaces for women.

When you look for it, at the center of every problem diagnosed by the MAGA right there is a woman with too much power. Fuentes, previously at the far fringes of acceptability, increasingly seems to distill — in his shameless, bombastic manner — the essence of what men in the MAGA movement believe. “The man is the fucking man of the house, and the man should be the man of the conservative movement, too,” he said on his America First show in December. “I know I’m the fucking incel loser, but we need to put women in their place, and it starts with our political movement.”

In February, Fuentes went further: “Women are made to be fucked … Women are either mothers, whores, or nuns … There are no female philosophers. There are no female inventors. There are no female generals or billionaires. They are mothers, whores, nuns. End of list. That’s what you can be.”

Fuentes has said he’s never had sex, but like his alleged sex-trafficking friends Andrew and Tristan Tate (whose flight from house arrest in Romania was facilitated by the Trump administration), he advocates for the reassertion of male dominion by force. “The No. 1 political enemy in America is women,” he said on a recent stream. “They are the ones that are hurting the fertility rate. They’re the ones making us sympathetic to poor people, which are also brown people … They attack every man as a rapist and a pedophile, and they’re henpecking and controlling all the men.” He went on: “Hitler imprisoned Gypsies, Jews, communists, all of his political rivals. We have to do the same thing with women … they go to the breeding gulags.”

Tucker Carlson, indisputably one of the most influential people in the MAGA coalition, who gave Fuentes a friendly interview last fall, has recently taken to blaming feminism for the country’s woes in explicit terms. He identified “encouraging women to work outside the home” as one of the key drivers of the “great replacement” of white Americans with minorities. (“Women who work during childbearing years,” he said, “are much less likely to have lots of children.”) He calls himself “a little sexist.” Last summer, when a guest on his show asked rhetorically why people would want women to vote and added that he was “half joking,” Carlson responded, “I’m not.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/...right.html

[Rev. Rye]

This week on Dean Withers: it turns out that if the Right even has actual moral priorities, they're really fucking bizarre. 





Apparently, Joe Biden being a gaffe machine, Kamala Harris making a political remark during Jesse Jackson's funeral, or a 14-year old white boy using the N-word is a far greater moral sin than Trump's being found liable for sexual abuse or admitting to walking into teenaged girls' dressing rooms unannounced while they were in a state of undress.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The Women Leaving the New Right

Anna’s discomfort with the right’s sexism grew throughout the early 2020s, especially after Elon Musk purchased Twitter and began rewarding the most outrageous and offensive posters.

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“Over time, the language of New Right misogyny got way more tuned in to red-pill-type stuff,” she says. Among young MAGA men, there ceased to be a huge difference between self-understood trads — Christians who tend to (patronizingly) venerate women’s special contributions to family and religious life — and rageful incels, who see women as conspirators in a plot to deprive them of sex and status. Both groups, Anna says, came to see women as “these objects you can use at will. So if you want a marriage, if you want a lifelong ‘bang maid,’ then you can pursue that. And if you want to just have endless hookups, you can pursue that by using these dating tactics within the red-pill sphere.” Men in the movement who rejected these ideas were nonetheless hesitant to criticize others. “The principle was ‘No enemies to the right,’” Anna says. “So normal conservative men — the good husbands and self-understood nice guys — refused to police the vanguard.”

Anna’s career and income depended heavily on conservative patronage, and by then, she and her husband had several children to support. For a while, she experienced the ramped-up misogyny as primarily an online phenomenon. But sometime during the Biden administration, young men began repeating repulsive manosphere talking points in her presence — that women are irrational and manipulative, good for little but sex and childbearing. They assumed, she says, “because of how I presented myself” — as anti-feminist, as “based” and unbothered — “that I was not like the other girls.” They demonstrated their fealty to MAGA by enthusing about repealing no-fault divorce, gender-discrimination laws, and even the 19th Amendment, which gave women the vote. Often enough, women in the movement would agree. “That was your ticket, your entry point,” Anna says. “It’s a ‘Leave your dignity at the door’ type thing.”

Usually, she silently endured her peers’ soliloquies on women’s deviance and the urgent need to curtail their rights. When she did manage a retort, it was not well received. On one occasion, at a professional dinner, a male acquaintance spewed out some “really gross” things about women (she declines to share details for fear of being identified), and she gently pushed back. “He freaked out,” she says. “He was banging on the table, screaming at me, saying, ‘Nobody cares what you think, woman’ — using the word woman as an invective.” She worried he would become violent. No one at the table came to her defense, men or women.

Now, a growing group of right-wing women — both prominent personalities and loyal foot soldiers — are waking up to find their inclusion in the MAGA movement was contingent. Sexism wasn’t merely the price of entry; it was the theme of the party.

Young women drawn to the cause in recent years for more traditional reasons — religious convictions, pro-life politics, a preference for conventional gender roles — are having a rude awakening of their own, finding that MAGA sexism is not the same as the old patriarchy. On the New Right, male licentiousness, violence, and domination are not only acceptable but valorized.

Some women in MAGA and the broader conservative movement have publicly distanced themselves. They include BASEDPolitics co-founder Hannah Cox (“As someone who used to think ‘feminism’ was a dirty word,” she tweeted last year, “nothing depresses me more than the rise of true misogyny we’re seeing on the right”); the former trad-wife influencer Alice Llani; and Ashley St. Clair, the former Turning Point USA brand ambassador who had a child with Elon Musk, who is fighting her for custody. St. Clair is now an advocate for women facing online abuse.

Anna hears frequently from women who have dedicated years to conservative media who feel “politically homeless” but can’t decide whether to quit. When I ask if there is a way to estimate how significant the problem is for right-wing women, she says, “Every single woman in conservative politics knows exactly what I’m talking about. And if she says she doesn’t, she’s lying.”

The most powerful people in Washington are embracing policy ideas that would have scandalized previous generations of conservatives, reopening arguments that were settled a half a century ago or more. In August, Pete Hegseth shared a video in which Christian-nationalist pastor Douglas Wilson advocates repealing women’s suffrage. Over the past two years, conservative lawmakers in Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas have considered restrictions on no-fault divorce, entertaining the idea of forcibly keeping women in unwanted marriages. Trump’s White House has proposed dismantling the Department of Labor’s Women’s Bureau, rescinded Biden-era guidance for employers about workplace harassment, and eliminated a 60-year-old measure designed to ensure federal contractors abide by anti-discrimination laws — all enabling a return to more hostile workplaces for women.

When you look for it, at the center of every problem diagnosed by the MAGA right there is a woman with too much power. Fuentes, previously at the far fringes of acceptability, increasingly seems to distill — in his shameless, bombastic manner — the essence of what men in the MAGA movement believe. “The man is the fucking man of the house, and the man should be the man of the conservative movement, too,” he said on his America First show in December. “I know I’m the fucking incel loser, but we need to put women in their place, and it starts with our political movement.”

In February, Fuentes went further: “Women are made to be fucked … Women are either mothers, whores, or nuns … There are no female philosophers. There are no female inventors. There are no female generals or billionaires. They are mothers, whores, nuns. End of list. That’s what you can be.”

Fuentes has said he’s never had sex, but like his alleged sex-trafficking friends Andrew and Tristan Tate (whose flight from house arrest in Romania was facilitated by the Trump administration), he advocates for the reassertion of male dominion by force. “The No. 1 political enemy in America is women,” he said on a recent stream. “They are the ones that are hurting the fertility rate. They’re the ones making us sympathetic to poor people, which are also brown people … They attack every man as a rapist and a pedophile, and they’re henpecking and controlling all the men.” He went on: “Hitler imprisoned Gypsies, Jews, communists, all of his political rivals. We have to do the same thing with women … they go to the breeding gulags.”

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Tucker Carlson, indisputably one of the most influential people in the MAGA coalition, who gave Fuentes a friendly interview last fall, has recently taken to blaming feminism for the country’s woes in explicit terms. He identified “encouraging women to work outside the home” as one of the key drivers of the “great replacement” of white Americans with minorities. (“Women who work during childbearing years,” he said, “are much less likely to have lots of children.”) He calls himself “a little sexist.” Last summer, when a guest on his show asked rhetorically why people would want women to vote and added that he was “half joking,” Carlson responded, “I’m not.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/...right.html

Why on Earth are they surprised? The label on the tin says it all. Face-eating leopards are everywhere. They accepted submission, and now are shocked they are expected to submit .. it's okay, those of us who believe in equality will still accept you.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The Women Leaving the New Right

Anna’s discomfort with the right’s sexism grew throughout the early 2020s, especially after Elon Musk purchased Twitter and began rewarding the most outrageous and offensive posters.

---

“Over time, the language of New Right misogyny got way more tuned in to red-pill-type stuff,” she says. Among young MAGA men, there ceased to be a huge difference between self-understood trads — Christians who tend to (patronizingly) venerate women’s special contributions to family and religious life — and rageful incels, who see women as conspirators in a plot to deprive them of sex and status. Both groups, Anna says, came to see women as “these objects you can use at will. So if you want a marriage, if you want a lifelong ‘bang maid,’ then you can pursue that. And if you want to just have endless hookups, you can pursue that by using these dating tactics within the red-pill sphere.” Men in the movement who rejected these ideas were nonetheless hesitant to criticize others. “The principle was ‘No enemies to the right,’” Anna says. “So normal conservative men — the good husbands and self-understood nice guys — refused to police the vanguard.”

Anna’s career and income depended heavily on conservative patronage, and by then, she and her husband had several children to support. For a while, she experienced the ramped-up misogyny as primarily an online phenomenon. But sometime during the Biden administration, young men began repeating repulsive manosphere talking points in her presence — that women are irrational and manipulative, good for little but sex and childbearing. They assumed, she says, “because of how I presented myself” — as anti-feminist, as “based” and unbothered — “that I was not like the other girls.” They demonstrated their fealty to MAGA by enthusing about repealing no-fault divorce, gender-discrimination laws, and even the 19th Amendment, which gave women the vote. Often enough, women in the movement would agree. “That was your ticket, your entry point,” Anna says. “It’s a ‘Leave your dignity at the door’ type thing.”

Usually, she silently endured her peers’ soliloquies on women’s deviance and the urgent need to curtail their rights. When she did manage a retort, it was not well received. On one occasion, at a professional dinner, a male acquaintance spewed out some “really gross” things about women (she declines to share details for fear of being identified), and she gently pushed back. “He freaked out,” she says. “He was banging on the table, screaming at me, saying, ‘Nobody cares what you think, woman’ — using the word woman as an invective.” She worried he would become violent. No one at the table came to her defense, men or women.

Now, a growing group of right-wing women — both prominent personalities and loyal foot soldiers — are waking up to find their inclusion in the MAGA movement was contingent. Sexism wasn’t merely the price of entry; it was the theme of the party.

Young women drawn to the cause in recent years for more traditional reasons — religious convictions, pro-life politics, a preference for conventional gender roles — are having a rude awakening of their own, finding that MAGA sexism is not the same as the old patriarchy. On the New Right, male licentiousness, violence, and domination are not only acceptable but valorized.

Some women in MAGA and the broader conservative movement have publicly distanced themselves. They include BASEDPolitics co-founder Hannah Cox (“As someone who used to think ‘feminism’ was a dirty word,” she tweeted last year, “nothing depresses me more than the rise of true misogyny we’re seeing on the right”); the former trad-wife influencer Alice Llani; and Ashley St. Clair, the former Turning Point USA brand ambassador who had a child with Elon Musk, who is fighting her for custody. St. Clair is now an advocate for women facing online abuse.

Anna hears frequently from women who have dedicated years to conservative media who feel “politically homeless” but can’t decide whether to quit. When I ask if there is a way to estimate how significant the problem is for right-wing women, she says, “Every single woman in conservative politics knows exactly what I’m talking about. And if she says she doesn’t, she’s lying.”

The most powerful people in Washington are embracing policy ideas that would have scandalized previous generations of conservatives, reopening arguments that were settled a half a century ago or more. In August, Pete Hegseth shared a video in which Christian-nationalist pastor Douglas Wilson advocates repealing women’s suffrage. Over the past two years, conservative lawmakers in Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas have considered restrictions on no-fault divorce, entertaining the idea of forcibly keeping women in unwanted marriages. Trump’s White House has proposed dismantling the Department of Labor’s Women’s Bureau, rescinded Biden-era guidance for employers about workplace harassment, and eliminated a 60-year-old measure designed to ensure federal contractors abide by anti-discrimination laws — all enabling a return to more hostile workplaces for women.

When you look for it, at the center of every problem diagnosed by the MAGA right there is a woman with too much power. Fuentes, previously at the far fringes of acceptability, increasingly seems to distill — in his shameless, bombastic manner — the essence of what men in the MAGA movement believe. “The man is the fucking man of the house, and the man should be the man of the conservative movement, too,” he said on his America First show in December. “I know I’m the fucking incel loser, but we need to put women in their place, and it starts with our political movement.”

In February, Fuentes went further: “Women are made to be fucked … Women are either mothers, whores, or nuns … There are no female philosophers. There are no female inventors. There are no female generals or billionaires. They are mothers, whores, nuns. End of list. That’s what you can be.”

Fuentes has said he’s never had sex, but like his alleged sex-trafficking friends Andrew and Tristan Tate (whose flight from house arrest in Romania was facilitated by the Trump administration), he advocates for the reassertion of male dominion by force. “The No. 1 political enemy in America is women,” he said on a recent stream. “They are the ones that are hurting the fertility rate. They’re the ones making us sympathetic to poor people, which are also brown people … They attack every man as a rapist and a pedophile, and they’re henpecking and controlling all the men.” He went on: “Hitler imprisoned Gypsies, Jews, communists, all of his political rivals. We have to do the same thing with women … they go to the breeding gulags.”

---

Tucker Carlson, indisputably one of the most influential people in the MAGA coalition, who gave Fuentes a friendly interview last fall, has recently taken to blaming feminism for the country’s woes in explicit terms. He identified “encouraging women to work outside the home” as one of the key drivers of the “great replacement” of white Americans with minorities. (“Women who work during childbearing years,” he said, “are much less likely to have lots of children.”) He calls himself “a little sexist.” Last summer, when a guest on his show asked rhetorically why people would want women to vote and added that he was “half joking,” Carlson responded, “I’m not.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/...right.html

Why on Earth are they surprised? The label on the tin says it all. Face-eating leopards are everywhere. They accepted submission, and now are shocked they are expected to submit .. it's okay, those of us who believe in equality will still accept you.

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I'm sure his sexism isn't the only thing about him that's little.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

I'm sure his sexism isn't the only thing about him that's little.

Boru