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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 25, 2022 at 8:15 pm
(October 25, 2022 at 6:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 5:19 pm)Jehanne Wrote: What will happen when this case reaches SCOTUS:
Federal Officials Refuse to Transfer Prisoner to Oklahoma for Execution
The SC will order him returned to Oklahoma and he’ll be executed.
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Interesting, because, federal law, which is supposedly above state law, makes no exceptions with respect to death penalty cases. If the SCOTUS conservatives are truly reconstructionists, on what legal basis could they decide for Oklahoma?
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm
(October 25, 2022 at 8:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 6:14 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The SC will order him returned to Oklahoma and he’ll be executed.
Boru
Interesting, because, federal law, which is supposedly above state law, makes no exceptions with respect to death penalty cases. If the SCOTUS conservatives are truly reconstructionists, on what legal basis could they decide for Oklahoma?
Dunno.
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 6:49 am
(October 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 8:15 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Interesting, because, federal law, which is supposedly above state law, makes no exceptions with respect to death penalty cases. If the SCOTUS conservatives are truly reconstructionists, on what legal basis could they decide for Oklahoma?
Dunno.
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If they did that, it would just prove that SCOTUS, as dominated by far right conservatives, is just a political institution, a second legislature, as opposed to a true judiciary. No way, no how, could SCOTUS ever elevate Oklahoma law above federal law with respect to an individual's civil rights.
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 2:46 pm
(October 26, 2022 at 6:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Dunno.
Boru
If they did that, it would just prove that SCOTUS, as dominated by far right conservatives, is just a political institution, a second legislature, as opposed to a true judiciary. No way, no how, could SCOTUS ever elevate Oklahoma law above federal law with respect to an individual's civil rights.
They could try some fancy footwork about federal overstepping, I suppose. Tenth Amendment stuff.
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm
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(October 26, 2022 at 6:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Dunno.
Boru
If they did that, it would just prove that SCOTUS, as dominated by far right conservatives, is just a political institution, a second legislature, as opposed to a true judiciary. No way, no how, could SCOTUS ever elevate Oklahoma law above federal law with respect to an individual's civil rights.
They elevated the opinions of a dead british witchfinder to do the same......I'm not sure why anyone thinks something still needs proving, or that there's no way the clerics on the courts could do...really..whatever the fuck they wanted.
-but don't worry guys, dominionists aren't taking over the us government, that's just batshit fear mongering...we were told for years and years and years. 
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm
(October 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (October 26, 2022 at 6:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: If they did that, it would just prove that SCOTUS, as dominated by far right conservatives, is just a political institution, a second legislature, as opposed to a true judiciary. No way, no how, could SCOTUS ever elevate Oklahoma law above federal law with respect to an individual's civil rights.
They elevated the opinions of a dead british witchfinder to do the same......
Do you have a case # for that?
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 3:05 pm
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(October 25, 2022 at 6:45 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: Conservatives love a good killin', especially of a brown or black person. It's a stark demonstration of the hold that the owner class has on the power of state - whether it's done judicially or extrajudicially - nothing says "do what we say" like "or we'll have you killed". It's not a bug, it's a feature. Even if you flee a jurisdiction to some (ostensibly) better place...they'll just drag you back, showing that they also have control over those better places.
(October 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (October 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They elevated the opinions of a dead british witchfinder to do the same......
Do you have a case # for that? Why do you think Sam Alito is whining into any ear that will listen that people being given access to his own thoughts which he would ensconce as law puts a target on his back for assassination? I feel like we have short memories.
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
October 26, 2022 at 3:13 pm
(October 26, 2022 at 6:49 am)Jehanne Wrote: (October 25, 2022 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Dunno.
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If they did that, it would just prove that SCOTUS, as dominated by far right conservatives, is just a political institution, a second legislature, as opposed to a true judiciary. No way, no how, could SCOTUS ever elevate Oklahoma law above federal law with respect to an individual's civil rights.
Wasn't this already proven? Lol.
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RE: The United States now enters the phase of mass executions.
November 18, 2022 at 1:52 am
Alabama calls off the execution of Kenneth Eugene Smith moments ago, even after SCOTUS rubber-stamped its vacating of his final stay.
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