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Proxy war in Ukraine?
RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
(November 7, 2022 at 4:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 7, 2022 at 3:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: We talked about this in the other thread.  It's more than that, much more.

Source? (Actual source, not just a link to the other thread, please.)

Boru

U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine Breaks All Precedents
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
I mean, except for that one with the soviet union, right? But..again, you spend money to make money..and if the problem isn't really the dead ukranians or busted powerplants, but the cost to the us, we're doing good business...so....?
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
From a Keynesian POV, the spending in Ukraine is probably driving up inflation, and so, we are likely losing money.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
Lets see that math, lol.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
Why is the Fed raising interest rates?
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
(November 7, 2022 at 4:34 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(November 7, 2022 at 4:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Source? (Actual source, not just a link to the other thread, please.)

Boru

U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine Breaks All Precedents

That article says 17.6 billion. How is that ‘much more’?

Boru
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
(November 7, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Why is the Fed raising interest rates?

Why indeed.  So, no math? I feel like I'm wasting a good punchline here, but I'm pretty confident that you could pull a number directly out of your ass for no reason other than thinking it sounds super huge...and it will still be lower than the amount we currently spend trying to contain russia and china. Oh well.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
(November 7, 2022 at 4:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 7, 2022 at 4:34 pm)Jehanne Wrote: U.S. Security Assistance to Ukraine Breaks All Precedents

That article says 17.6 billion. How is that ‘much more’?

Boru

A lot of non-military spending has also taken place, probably, another 20 to 30 billion.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
(November 7, 2022 at 4:57 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(November 7, 2022 at 4:51 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Why is the Fed raising interest rates?

Why indeed.  So, no math? I feel like I'm wasting a good punchline here, but I'm pretty confident that you could pull a number directly out of your ass for no reason other than thinking it sounds super huge...and it will still be lower than the amount we currently spend trying to contain russia and china. Oh well.

Such is probably impossible to calculate. "Too many dollars chasing too few goods" is the usual explanation, but, yes, during periods of war spending, inflation does occur. And, so, the United States is "not making money" off the war in Ukraine.
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RE: Proxy war in Ukraine?
Okay, so lets call it 37 billion. Twice as many 1000ths of the yearly defense budget, spread out over a decade or so.

How much do you think we spend trying to contain russia and china? How much do you think we stand to lose or gain by failing or succeeding at those tasks? Proxy war style.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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