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July 8, 2023 at 10:50 am
(July 8, 2023 at 4:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 2:16 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, what is "coherentism", according to you? As far as I know, it's a rejection of the correspondence theory of the truth, motivated primarily by the correspondence theory of the truth supposedly being unable to account for counter-factual hypotheticals (but see the answer I received on StackExchange arguing there are indeed ways to account for counter-factual hypotheticals within the correspondence theory of the truth). Coherentism can be summarized as "A true statement is one that is coherent with other statements one believes."
You seem to be confusing 'coherentism' with 'the coherence theory of truth'.
Coherentism is the position that for a belief to be justified, it must belong to an internally coherent system of beliefs (it is important to remember that a belief can be justified and still untrue). This is manifestly NOT the same as confirmation bias, which is the willful rejection or ignoring of facts and evidence which do not support one's beliefs. This is why you claim to be unaware of the evidence supporting the Yugoslav Wars.
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So, what is the difference between coherentism and confirmation bias?
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 11:26 am
Nothing but a handful of consonants and vowels, which violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics…and therefore do not exist.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 11:58 am
(July 8, 2023 at 10:50 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 4:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You seem to be confusing 'coherentism' with 'the coherence theory of truth'.
Coherentism is the position that for a belief to be justified, it must belong to an internally coherent system of beliefs (it is important to remember that a belief can be justified and still untrue). This is manifestly NOT the same as confirmation bias, which is the willful rejection or ignoring of facts and evidence which do not support one's beliefs. This is why you claim to be unaware of the evidence supporting the Yugoslav Wars.
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So, what is the difference between coherentism and confirmation bias?
I’ve just told you.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 11:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 10:50 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: So, what is the difference between coherentism and confirmation bias?
I’ve just told you.
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I believe that Croatia is the best country in the world to live in. The claim that there was a bloody war 30 years ago in Croatia is incoherent with that belief, so I reject it. Is that coherentism or confirmation bias?
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July 8, 2023 at 3:04 pm
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July 8, 2023 at 3:22 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 3:04 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
What do you mean? You disagree with me that Croatia is one of the best countries in the world to live in? It is certainly better than the US, isn't it?
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 3:43 pm
Shithole.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 3:46 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 3:22 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 3:04 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
What do you mean? You disagree with me that Croatia is one of the best countries in the world to live in? It is certainly better than the US, isn't it?
I suppose that if you are Croatian it's an okay place. Just stay there and go to uni till you die.
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July 8, 2023 at 4:16 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 3:43 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Shithole.
I agree that the US is a shithole. What I don't agree with is that guns make it worse.
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RE: Mass shooting in the middle school Vladislav Ribnikar in Belgrade
July 8, 2023 at 4:34 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 2:55 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 11:58 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’ve just told you.
Boru
I believe that Croatia is the best country in the world to live in. The claim that there was a bloody war 30 years ago in Croatia is incoherent with that belief, so I reject it. Is that coherentism or confirmation bias?
It depends. Do you look at other countries to determine their quality of life? If you don’t take that data into consideration, it’s confirmation bias.
If, however, your belief that Croatia is the best place to live AND you reject the unarguable fact of the Yugoslav Wars, that’s coherentism, which means your belief is justified (not true, just justified).
But, if you are aware of the mountains of evidence that the Yugoslav Wars actually happened and you reject or decline to consider it, we’re back to confirmation bias.
So, you can take your pick between two idiotic paradigms for Croatia being the best place to live.
Boru
Addendum: it’s not clear why a war 30 years ago would disqualify Croatia as ‘the best country to live in’.
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