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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 8:30 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am)Astreja Wrote: their god would force me to "enjoy" paradise
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Um.. and what's the problem with that, exactly ? If your other-worldly self is made in such a way that it enjoys heaven, what else is needed ? would you rather prefer being bored or annoyed of heaven for eternity ?
It's a violation of my free will and my identity, obviously. The moment a being "modifies" me without my explicit consent, I'm no longer myself.
I'm not even interested in eternal life. Absolutely hideous concept.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 9:12 am
(July 15, 2023 at 9:24 am)Loaded dice Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 9:07 am)brewer Wrote: Outside of belief/faith in a god concept, yes it does require concrete evidence.
Yeah, we know. That's why the vast majority of theistic arguments begin from observations and facts about the universe.
(July 15, 2023 at 9:07 am)brewer Wrote: What is assertion P?
It's your assertion that actual existing requires concrete evidence and not abstract arguments, does this assertion itself require concrete evidence ? or abstract arguments ?
It's your original assertion, not mine. If your god is 'all that' then it shouldl have no problem providing concrete evidence.
Time for your god to step up............... or step off.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 9:16 am
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(July 15, 2023 at 8:30 pm)Astreja Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am)Astreja Wrote: their god would force me to "enjoy" paradise
(July 10, 2023 at 7:58 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Um.. and what's the problem with that, exactly ? If your other-worldly self is made in such a way that it enjoys heaven, what else is needed ? would you rather prefer being bored or annoyed of heaven for eternity ?
It's a violation of my free will and my identity, obviously. The moment a being "modifies" me without my explicit consent, I'm no longer myself.
I'm not even interested in eternal life. Absolutely hideous concept. People who like the pitch won't see a problem, obviously - though you do have to wonder.....does their SO know that they're highest aspiration is whoremongering...and they wouldn't see a problem with allah lobotimizing their SO so they could enjoy that? The idea that ladies don't like to fuck seems, to me, like a way of avoiding an insecurity that their own fantasies palpably create.
Maybe allah lobotomizes them so that their girl can get her rocks off, but no, impossibru! You know, she's getting gangbanged, maybe she wants to watch her hubby blow some guy. No, no, impossibru. That would be horrible..if god made -them-...do -that-.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 1:38 pm
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 1:50 pm
Robert Spencer is most definitely a racist. Replace him with Tucker Carlson and tell me these words aren't racist.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/...rt-spencer
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 2:05 pm
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(July 16, 2023 at 1:50 pm)Helios Wrote: Robert Spencer is most definitely a racist. Replace him with Tucker Carlson and tell me these words aren't racist.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/...rt-spencer
Are the events that he purports to be historical actually true or not. That's all I care about.
Was the calendar later changed from the Arabic calendar, in which there was a "leap month" and when the biographies were written the leap months "disappeared" ?
Yes or no ? How is that question and/or it's historical answer "racist" ?
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 2:21 pm
I literally just showed how he's racist
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 3:00 pm
showing he is a racist does not show specific statements he made were not true. a statement he made that is true retains the full value conferees by its own trueness, and that value is totally insusceptible to degradation by any degree of racism or other undesirable attribute on his part.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 3:07 pm
(July 16, 2023 at 2:21 pm)Helios Wrote: I literally just showed how he's racist
I did not ask about HIM. I asked about a specific question and an answer.
I have not heard anyone else talk about the missing information from the leap month problem.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 16, 2023 at 3:22 pm
I know you didn't but it remains a fact he is
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