Gog Magog civil war with the west

[Fake Messiah]

In a world dominated by evil forces, one cannot expect a true treaty.
Just 77 years ago, the combined forces of the "non-believing" nations -the massive alliance of Gog Magog and Europe- unleashed the Normandy Landing and emerged victorious in the biggest massacre caused by Non-believing nations; where flesh was gored and men roared.

So WH is on the side of the Nazis. Color me surprised.

[Nay_Sayer]

So if I made a few non-believing nations and taught them self-defense would that be Gog Magog Krav Maga?

[Deesse23]

Soon enough, you will see the face of China joining forces publicly with Russia.
Soon you will taste the bitterness of Western schemes and false flags.

Soon you will see the nuclear sun.

How big is your raging hardon about thermonuclear war? Bigger than the one looking at some hawt male?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Soon enough, you will see the face of China joining forces publicly with Russia.

No they freaking won't 

Soon you will taste the bitterness of Western schemes and false flags.

Nope 

Soon you will see the nuclear sun.

More nope

[Anomalocaris]

So long as it is only the face of China joining forces publicly with Russians, and not the hands and feet of China joining forces privately with the Muslims, I think there is hope for Gags and Mogags yet.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I didn't say "static", I said "stable". Being able to KNOW with some certainty that you can go to the market and sell your eggs, knowing that a strange army isn't going to confiscate your livestock, et cetera.

but not being absolutely sure that you will be able to go to the market to sell your produce tomorrow, because some imperial power might come in and push over your carts and seize all your produce focuses your mind on making the kind of innovations required to reduce the chance of that happening

LOL, what is absolutely sure?

[Anomalocaris]

I didn't say "static", I said "stable". Being able to KNOW with some certainty that you can go to the market and sell your eggs, knowing that a strange army isn't going to confiscate your livestock, et cetera.

but not being absolutely sure that you will be able to go to the market to sell your produce tomorrow, because some imperial power might come in and push over your carts and seize all your produce focuses your mind on making the kind of innovations required to reduce the chance of that happening

LOL, what is absolutely sure?

LOL,  what is “KNOW with some certainty”?

[WinterHold]

actually imperialism also made much of humanity’s progress possible.

Imperialism neither provide solutions on "the long run", nor believe in the existence of a "long run" in the first place.

[WinterHold]

actually imperialism also made much of humanity’s progress possible.

That progress would happened even without imperialism. At a significantly slower pace, true, but with a much lower cost in misery and human lives.

Boru

It focuses on the "present state" only. That's why it provides temporary shiny achievements in the present moment, but no guarantee about the continuity of that achievement in the future.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

That progress would happened even without imperialism. At a significantly slower pace, true, but with a much lower cost in misery and human lives.

Boru

It focuses on the "present state" only. That's why it provides temporary shiny achievements in the present moment, but no guarantee about the continuity of that achievement in the future.

That’s not remotely correct. Imperialism is all about the long game.

Boru