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Why did Communists promote Evolution?
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Chimps and bonobos may actually be smarter than man. They aren't getting out of bed on Sunday morning and putting on their fancy go-to-meetin' clothes to listen to some other ape tell them they are going to hell if they don't give a tenth of their bananas to him.
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
July 28, 2023 at 7:37 pm
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(July 28, 2023 at 6:38 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Just passing through. Found this Amazing Study from Dr. Jeffrey Tomkins. Can't believe I hadn't heard of it before today. Wtf? There is some asshole scammer working for a faux-research organization who misrepresents science and you didn't hear about him?! That is strange.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
July 28, 2023 at 7:52 pm
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(July 28, 2023 at 6:47 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: If humans and chimps really share a common ancestor, we would not see such drastic divergence in the respective genomes. 98.8 % commonality isn't a "drastic divergence". Try harder next time and stop lying.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
July 28, 2023 at 7:57 pm
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(July 28, 2023 at 6:38 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Just passing through. Found this Amazing Study from Dr. Jeffrey Tomkins. Can't believe I hadn't heard of it before today. Here it is:His specialty and education is in plants. "Dr. Tomkins earned a master’s degree in plant science in 1990 from the University of Idaho, where he performed research in plant hormones. He received his Ph.D. in genetics from Clemson University in 1996. While at Clemson, he worked as a research technician in a plant breeding/genetics program, with a research focus in the area of quantitative and physiological genetics in soybeans. .....In 2009, Dr. Tomkins joined the Institute for Creation Research. That about all you need to know. His views are WAY out of the consensus in Genetics, and he could not get a job anywhere else.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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And the Ph. D in Genetics your excerpt mentions?
A liberal source claims it at 96%. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scien...tudy-finds Here's a paper: "Human-specific single nucleotide alterations constituted 1.23% of human DNA, whereas more extended deletions and insertions cover ~ 3% of our genome. Moreover, much higher proportion is made by differential chromosomal inversions and translocations comprising several megabase-long regions or even whole chromosomes. However, despite of extensive knowledge of structural genomic changes accompanying human evolution we still cannot identify with certainty the causative genes of human identity." https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/ar...20-06962-8 Ok, now tell me this. Which Ape was it, then, that we and Chimpanzees are allegedly descended from? Ramapithecus? Silvepithecus? Which was it? Wiki says this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee...n_ancestor Quote:"The chimpanzee–human last common ancestor (CHLCA) is the last common ancestor shared by the extant Homo (human) and Pan (chimpanzee and bonobo) genera of Hominini. Due to complex hybrid speciation, it is not currently possible to give a precise estimate on the age of this ancestral population. While "original divergence" between populations may have occurred as early as 13 million years ago (Miocene), hybridization may have been ongoing until as recently as 4 million years ago (Pliocene). Lol. That last paragraph engages in Special Pleading Sophistry. There'd be a "scarcity of fossil evidence for CHLCA candidates" most likely if there never was any such common ancestor between chimps and humans. Humans have been around for scarcely 100-200,000 years even according to Evolutionists themselves, as one of that links I mentioned said. Yet, we have so many fossils of humans. We are supposed to believe that one of your Alleged Great Ape Ancestors - which presumably would have walked this Earth for millions of years - left "a scarcity of fossil evidence?" Above doesn't wash with me at all. We'd have way more fossils of the Intermediate Form that allegedly branched out for millions of years into chimps and us. Doesn't wash. If it was 7 MN years, assuming uniform distribution of fossils, you'd expect at a minimum 35 to 70 times more, leaving aside that that Population of those Intermediate Form Apes would have grown so greatly across Millions of years that that's an under-estimate if anything. Even if not that much, one at least would not expect the "scarcity of fossil evidence" mentioned above. But that is not in line with actual results of that "scarcity of fossil evidence". That "scarcity of fossil evidence" suggests something is fishy about the evolutionist story. Now, pls tell us which exactly was the Common Ancestor to Chimps and Humans, and then we can examine/evaluate it further. 1. "Sivapithecus (lit. 'Shiva's Ape') (syn: Ramapithecus) is a genus of extinct apes. Fossil remains of animals now assigned to this genus, dated from 12.2 million years old[1] in the Miocene, have been found since the 19th century in the Siwalik Hills of the Indian subcontinent as well as in Kutch. Any one of the species in this genus may have been the ancestor to the modern orangutans." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sivapithecus 2. "Ramapithecus, fossil primate dating from the Middle and Late Miocene epochs (about 16.6 million to 5.3 million years ago). For a time in the 1960s and ’70s, Ramapithecus was thought to be a distinct genus that was the first direct ancestor of modern humans (Homo sapiens) before it became regarded as that of the orangutan ancestor Sivapithecus ... Ramapithecus fossils subsequently were found to resemble those of the fossil primate genus Sivapithecus, which is now regarded as ancestral to the orangutan; the belief also grew that Ramapithecus probably should be included in the Sivapithecus genus." From: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Ramapithecus Both of these appear to be Failed Candidates for the Title of Common Ancestor to Chimps and Humans. They hardly lived in the correct epoch for one thing (as that same article says, " They concluded that the ape-human divergence must have occurred much later than Ramapithecus. (It is now thought that the final split took place some 6 million to 8 million years ago.)" So name the actual Common Ancestor and we'll see. If such a common ancestor did exist, the fossil and genetic evidence would back it up clearly.
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"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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I'm calling god-of-the-gaps here. Not having an answer doesn't mean that the default answer is "god(s) did it".
RE: Why did Communists promote Evolution?
July 29, 2023 at 12:09 am
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So just more of him citing frauds and twisting actual science and demonstrating his general ignorance of the subject
Like seriously Jeffrey Tomkins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D117oXq8yT4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtTHlqhRQi0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYw9jl5jArE And all the genetics and fossils evidence we need is present but creationists will forever demand more because they will refuse any amount of evidence priori
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