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Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
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RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
Quote:Hello Peeb. Please see this distinguished list of Creation Scientists and their Educational Qualifications for yourself. https://creation.com/creation-scientists
[url=https://creation.com/creation-scientists][/url]Yup, apologists in lab coats. Having credentials is meaningless if you are simply using it to push pseudoscience. There is no such thing as a" Creation Scientist"
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#12
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
What are your Educational Qualifications precisely? Let's see if they can hold even a Candle to those highly accomplished Scientists whom you hate just because they're Christians and believe in the wonderful fact of God's Creation, not Atheistic Lies like that the Universe created itself out of nothing or whatever.
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#13
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
(July 26, 2023 at 4:47 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: "...Like that the Universe created itself out of nothing or whatever."

Physicists etc do not actually say this. Please try and keep up with the current literature.

So, how goes your reply to the question of Creation quote mining?

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#14
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
Quote:What are your Educational Qualifications precisely?
Irrelevant 



Quote:Let's see if they can hold even a Candle to those highly accomplished Scientists whom you hate just because they're Christians and believe in the wonderful fact of God's Creation, not Atheistic Lies like that the Universe created itself out of nothing or whatever.
Nope, I hate them because they are liars who use their credentials to push pseudoscience. Any accomplishments they have made are moot to the fact that they are just that. Plenty of Christians think creationists are bunk merchants too and I admire them for it.
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
(July 26, 2023 at 4:49 am)Peebothuhlu Wrote:
(July 26, 2023 at 4:47 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: "...Like that the Universe created itself out of nothing or whatever."

Physicists etc do not actually say this. Please try and keep up with the current literature.

So, how goes your reply to the question of Creation quote mining?

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True  Great
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#16
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
(July 26, 2023 at 2:30 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Alleged Spontaneous Abiogenesis is like the earlier theory of "Spontaneous Generation", now discredited. The odds against it are so extra-ordinary and far-fetched, it's perfectly rational to believe that this did not happen through Pure Chance but rather through Intelligent Design.

"‘Spontaneous generation’ was a mainstream scientific doctrine for a very long time, until proven wrong by Francesco Redi and Louis Pasteur. Even then it died a slow and painful death. Spontaneous generation basically proposed that given the right conditions and precursors, life would arise all by itself ‘spontaneously’. There were various recipes for this well-established ‘fact’ of science. For example, 17th Century Flemish chemist Jan Baptiste van Helmont wrote, ‘If a soiled shirt is placed in the opening of a vessel containing grains of wheat, the reaction of the leaven in the shirt with fumes from the wheat will, after approximately 21 days, transform the wheat into mice.’ It was also thought that meat left to rot would spontaneously give rise to maggots and flies. The self-evident fact that rotting meat would before long swarm with maggots and flies established the belief in spontaneous generation of maggots and flies from rotting meat. Redi proposed an eminently simple experiment to test the hypothesis: let’s cover the meat with some fine material and see what happens! Well of course no maggots or flies swarmed on the meat as it rotted because no flies could get to the meat to lay their eggs and thus produce the maggots and flies that were so well known. And so Redi overthrew long-established scientific doctrine and replaced it with a new doctrine, ‘Life comes from life’—what became known as the ‘law of biogenesis’."
From: https://creation.com/abiogenesis

There is no 'law of biogenesis'.

Abiogenesis does not occur by 'chance'.

http://www.creation.com is a website best suited for people who are afraid to learn what biology actually says.

Boru
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#17
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
The theory of Biogenesis may have refuted Spontaneous Generation but it in no way refutes Abiogenesis and indeed Abiogenisis is not by chance.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#18
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
Who said this? "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."
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#19
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
Quote:Who said this? "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing."
Stephen Hawking however he not discussing your strawman
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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#20
RE: Abiogenesis ("Chemical Evolution"): Did Life come from Non-Life by Pure Chance.
Peeb, above question was to you based on your reply to me.

As to your question, pls show us all right here 1 or 2 instances of this alleged quote mining and we'll examine it right here. If allegedly there are numerous such examples, you should be able to show that. I do not necessarily agree with each and every Creation Scientist, but saying they are not Scientists or not well-qualified or highly accomplished is clearly incorrect imo.
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