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2024 US Presidential Election
RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:14 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ...over 1.6 million immigrants encountered coming into the country; both by invitation of Harris, Pelosi and other high ranking DNC party members ....
Please provide evidence
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Trump cares about your Constitution in precisely the same manner in which the wrecking ball cares about the structural integrity of the building: an obstacle to be removed.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: To address both an earlier question and this - I don't care that rich people are involved in politics, I care when rich people's politics run contradictory to the American constitution and her national interests.

Some DNC and RNC behavior - at least that of Pelosi and McConnells' branches - falls into that later camp, and I believe Trump exists outside that sphere of influence.

I think your estimation of Trump is astonishingly naive. He's as corrupt as anyone who's held the office, and his cozying up to Putin and other autocrats is certainly against our national interest, given their jimmying with our electoral process, amongst other things. A strong Europe is in our national interest as well, yet he has consistently worked to undermine European security.

Not to mention his apparent loathing for legal due process, which is a Constitutional matter.

(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
Quote:Did they look like this?

I'm not sure about under Obama, but during Biden's admin - yeah, they still have looked like that.

That is a symptom of a surge of immigrants straining an underfunded and understaffed system that is actively being hamstringed by the DNC. It's creating a problem and then crying that you must be elected to fix it.

Do you have pictures of these camps in the Biden era?

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:38 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: To address both an earlier question and this - I don't care that rich people are involved in politics, I care when rich people's politics run contradictory to the American constitution and her national interests.

Some DNC and RNC behavior - at least that of Pelosi and McConnells' branches - falls into that later camp, and I believe Trump exists outside that sphere of influence.

I think your estimation of Trump is astonishingly naive.

(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: I'm not sure about under Obama, but during Biden's admin - yeah, they still have looked like that.

That is a symptom of a surge of immigrants straining an underfunded and understaffed system that is actively being hamstringed by the DNC. It's creating a problem and then crying that you must be elected to fix it.

Do you have pictures of these camps in the Biden era?
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Here is one, sorry about the size and yeah it's as I would suspect, bad like all the other periods. This guy is of course desperate to pretend Trump was any better because he threw more money at the problem and created a bunch of failed policies and just happened to be president when the numbers fell and of course spike is all evil Democrat's fault .... Because 
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:38 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: To address both an earlier question and this - I don't care that rich people are involved in politics, I care when rich people's politics run contradictory to the American constitution and her national interests.

Some DNC and RNC behavior - at least that of Pelosi and McConnells' branches - falls into that later camp, and I believe Trump exists outside that sphere of influence.

I think your estimation of Trump is astonishingly naive. He's as corrupt as anyone who's held he office, and his cozying up to Putin and other autocrats is certainly against our national interest, given their jimmying with our electoral process, amongst other things. A strong Europe is in our national interest as well, yet he has consistently worked to undermine European security.

(November 11, 2024 at 5:18 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: I'm not sure about under Obama, but during Biden's admin - yeah, they still have looked like that.

That is a symptom of a surge of immigrants straining an underfunded and understaffed system that is actively being hamstringed by the DNC. It's creating a problem and then crying that you must be elected to fix it.

Do you have pictures of these camps in the Biden era?

(Bold mine)

Predicted answer: 'No'.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:45 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:
(November 12, 2024 at 3:38 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think your estimation of Trump is astonishingly naive.


Do you have pictures of these camps in the Biden era?



[Image: _117670452_hi066371363.jpg.webp]

Here is one, sorry about the size and yeah it's as I would suspect, bad like all the other periods. This guy is of course desperate to pretend Trump was any better because he threw more money at the problem and created a bunch of failed policies and just happened to be president when the numbers fell and of course spike is all evil Democrat's fault .... Because 


I was hoping for snaps he shot himself.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:46 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 12, 2024 at 3:45 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Do you have pictures of these camps in the Biden era?

[Image: _117670452_hi066371363.jpg.webp]

Here is one, sorry about the size and yeah it's as I would suspect, bad like all the other periods. This guy is of course desperate to pretend Trump was any better because he threw more money at the problem and created a bunch of failed policies and just happened to be president when the numbers fell and of course spike is all evil Democrat's fault .... Because 


I was hoping for snaps he shot himself.
Oh my bad
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 3:30 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(November 12, 2024 at 3:14 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: ...over 1.6 million immigrants encountered coming into the country; both by invitation of Harris, Pelosi and other high ranking DNC party members ....
Please provide evidence
Get ready for stretches
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(November 12, 2024 at 12:32 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(November 11, 2024 at 8:45 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: The camps were shitty under Obama 

The camps were shitty under Trump 

The camps were  shitty under Biden 

It doesn't matter what president or what party was in charge. The camps were shitty. They were always meant to be shitty it has fuck all to do with funding or overcrowding

The only real difference under Trump is that he didn’t even try to act like he gave a shit about the poor conditions.

I'd say he revelled in the notion it was helpful to be as indifferent as possible, even going further and spreading duplicitous claims to demonise immigrants in a sweeping generic way. Understanding that immigration is a problem developed nations must manage, if a world away from the bigoted rhetoric he espouses.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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