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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 2:15 am
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(August 15, 2023 at 10:13 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: The average president has been charged with around 2 felonies, here's the break down
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somewhat misleading, the average american president had not been charged with two felonies. american presidents have been charged an average of 2 felonies. the two are not the same.
But be it as it may, I would not be satisfied until american presidents had done an average of two years in the federal penitentiary.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 4:33 am
(August 15, 2023 at 10:20 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 9:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Also, it’s clear as can be that Republicans know they have a serious problem with younger voters. If they didn’t, they would be making all this noise about raising the voting age.
That'd take a constitutional amendment overriding Amendment XXVI. Easier said than done.
I'm aware of that. I didn't say it was going to happen, I said they were making noise about it.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 4:40 am
(August 15, 2023 at 7:53 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 3:55 pm)Helios Wrote: Trumps going to lose but it's going to be close maybe within a few million votes.
I wish I had your confidence. My biggest fear is Joe Manchin running as an independent. That could tip the outcome in Trump's favor.
Joe Manchin is a local guy, he's really got no pull among Democrats on a national level. If he were to run, the only state he could possibly carry would be West Virgina, with its five electoral votes. If 2024 turns out to be a repeat of 2020, this would give Biden 301 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
Manchin is not a factor.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 7:59 am
(August 16, 2023 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 15, 2023 at 7:53 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: I wish I had your confidence. My biggest fear is Joe Manchin running as an independent. That could tip the outcome in Trump's favor.
Joe Manchin is a local guy, he's really got no pull among Democrats on a national level. If he were to run, the only state he could possibly carry would be West Virgina, with its five electoral votes. If 2024 turns out to be a repeat of 2020, this would give Biden 301 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
Manchin is not a factor.
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American Dems detest him for his hamstringing Biden's agenda. Manchin as a result would likely pull independents leaning Trump but distrustful of him.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 8:30 am
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(August 16, 2023 at 7:59 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 16, 2023 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Joe Manchin is a local guy, he's really got no pull among Democrats on a national level. If he were to run, the only state he could possibly carry would be West Virgina, with its five electoral votes. If 2024 turns out to be a repeat of 2020, this would give Biden 301 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
Manchin is not a factor.
Boru
American Dems detest him for his hamstringing Biden's agenda. Manchin as a result would likely pull independents leaning Trump but distrustful of him. Even if Biden lost West Virginia it's not a deathblow as there are several routes to victory for Biden and don't underestimate Trump's ability to undermine himself and his party a talent he put on full display in 2020 and during the 2022 midterms when virtually all his picks got thrashed.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 10:16 am
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(August 16, 2023 at 7:59 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 16, 2023 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Joe Manchin is a local guy, he's really got no pull among Democrats on a national level. If he were to run, the only state he could possibly carry would be West Virgina, with its five electoral votes. If 2024 turns out to be a repeat of 2020, this would give Biden 301 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
Manchin is not a factor.
Boru
American Dems detest him for his hamstringing Biden's agenda. Manchin as a result would likely pull independents leaning Trump but distrustful of him.
A sign of the disfunction of the Democratic Party is Manchin and Sinema have neither been found in the dumpster with their hamstring torn out with dull hooks.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 2:20 pm
(August 16, 2023 at 7:59 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (August 16, 2023 at 4:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Joe Manchin is a local guy, he's really got no pull among Democrats on a national level. If he were to run, the only state he could possibly carry would be West Virgina, with its five electoral votes. If 2024 turns out to be a repeat of 2020, this would give Biden 301 electoral votes to Trump's 232.
Manchin is not a factor.
Boru
American Dems detest him for his hamstringing Biden's agenda. Manchin as a result would likely pull independents leaning Trump but distrustful of him.
He's as much a democrat as someone can be and still get re-elected senator in West Virginia. He votes with the majority of Democrats on about 75% of issues and that's about as good as we're gonna get from that state for the present.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 16, 2023 at 2:38 pm
(August 15, 2023 at 10:20 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 9:16 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Also, it’s clear as can be that Republicans know they have a serious problem with younger voters. If they didn’t, they would be making all this noise about raising the voting age.
That'd take a constitutional amendment overriding Amendment XXVI. Easier said than done.
I would say in today's political climate, any Constitutional amendment is a non-starter.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 17, 2023 at 3:05 pm
Quote:NEW YORK (AP) — After every new indictment, Donald Trump has boasted that his standing among Republicans only improves — and he has a point.
Nearly two-thirds of Republicans — 63% — now say they want the former president to run again, according to new polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That’s up slightly from the 55% who said the same in April when Trump began facing a series of criminal charges. Seven in 10 Republicans now have a favorable opinion of Trump, an uptick from the 60% who said so two months ago.
But in a crucial warning sign for the former president and his supporters, Trump faces glaring vulnerabilities heading into a general election, with many Americans strongly dug in against him. While most Republicans — 74% — say they would support him in November 2024, 53% of Americans say they would definitely not support him if he is the nominee. Another 11% say they would probably not support him in November 2024.
The findings bolster the arguments of some of Trump’s rivals for the Republican nomination who laud his tenure as president, but warn that he can’t win in a general election when he must compete for votes beyond the GOP base. Trump lost the popular vote in the 2016 campaign, attaining the presidency only by winning a majority in the Electoral College. He lost to Democrat Joe Biden by an even larger 7 million-vote margin in 2020, a defeat he has falsely attributed to widespread voter fraud.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-electio...1afe0e4639
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
August 18, 2023 at 12:01 am
(August 17, 2023 at 3:05 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Quote:NEW YORK (AP) — After every new indictment, Donald Trump has boasted that his standing among Republicans only improves — and he has a point.
Then I can't wait for the elections of 2032 because from now on Trump will always run for president no matter what.
Trump 2032!
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