2024 US Presidential Election

[neil]

Not necessarily. It hasn't been established that Trump will be the GOP candidate, for one thing. Same goes for who could be the Dem candidate.

Yeah, but you, me, and the Pope know that in all likelihood it will be Biden against Trump. There are no Dem challengers to Biden, firstly, while on the GOP side, Haley is behind 40-70 points.

I think it's still very early; we have several months before election day. I'm willing to agree that the next POTUS will be a Democrat or Republican (rather than any of the independent or 3rd party candidates), but not necessarily Trump or Biden - at this time.

Efforts are being made to block Trump from being on ballots & if SCOTUS were to say that he's disqualified for insurrection, then obviously he'll no longer be a candidate.

With the influence peddling allegations/situation against Biden, something like an impeachment or whatever could mean he might also no longer be a candidate.

I could be wrong; I'm not a legal expert. I'm just guessing based on what's being reported in the news. If they are possible, then I think the likelihood is significant.

If you wanted me to venture a guess on who I think could be the POTUS candidates, I would say Harris vs. Haley (nothing more than just my own guess).

It also won't be a Gaza single issue if the border issue also plays a role for enough voters. There's even plenty of other issues beyond that, such as inflation, fuel costs, rent, etc.

You missed my point, to wit, Biden needs every vote he can get, and that the margins are small enough that American Muslims staying home (2.15 million adults) could make a real difference. I'm not saying that this is the only concern-issue.

I see no reason for complacency simply because single-issue voters are nothing new.

What I'm trying to say is that the Gaza single-issue voters isn't necessarily what matters or the only thing that's going to matter for Biden.

Gaza doesn't only matter to American Muslim voters, it also matters to a broader range of American voters who aren't Muslims - regardless of whether or not any of them are single-issue voters.

It can also have an impact on Trump; some Muslim Americans vote Republican, and some of them could be Gaza single-issue voters; also, not all (non-Muslim) Republicans or Right-leaning swing voters in general are for US support of Israel's atrocities against Gaza.

[Belacqua]

I saw a video of two women being turned away from a Biden rally because they were wearing hijabs. 

Whether this was a policy decision or just a staffer making a stupid mistake, I don't know. The staff member refused to explain to the two women.

I've never heard of Kulinski before. Do you think he's reliable, or would he exaggerate a small incident?

The Guardian reports:

Two women have accused Biden-Harris campaign staffers of Islamophobia, claiming they were profiled and disinvited from a campaign event because they were wearing hijabs.

Staff with the campaign have since countered that the women were barred after disrupting other events held by Democratic leaders.

The incident was captured on video and shared to X (formerly Twitter) on Tuesday by an account named Nevadans for Palestinian Liberation.

The viral video, which has garnered over 2m views, shows an unidentified staffer for the Get the Vote Out event in Las Vegas on Saturday telling the women that they are not allowed to enter the venue.

“We are choosing who’s going in and out of the event. I’m sorry,” the staffer said.

Off camera, one woman responds: “Why are you choosing us not to go in when we have an invite?”

A separate woman, also off camera, says: “You specifically singled us out.”

The women then accuse the staffer of being “racist” and asks if they were prevented from attending because they are wearing hijabs.

As the women and the staffer talk, the staffer allows others to enter the event venue.

“They’re disinviting us because we have hijabs on our heads. That’s why,” one woman shouts to attendees as they enter the venue.

When a separate attendee asks the staffer if the women can enter, he says: “No, I’m sorry.”

[...]

A spokesperson with the Biden-Harris campaign said that the women were specifically barred after staff discovered that they had disrupted previous events with Democratic lawmakers.

“These individuals were among the group of people not allowed to attend Saturday’s event after previously disrupting and shutting down events with Democratic elected officials,” Ammar Moussa, a spokesperson for the campaign, said in a statement shared to X.

A spokesperson with the Clark County Democrats in Nevada forwarded the Biden-Harris campaign’s response to the Guardian when asked for comment.

A source close to the Biden-Harris campaign added that the women had previously protested during a speech by the Nevada senator Jacky Rosen earlier this month.

After being disinvited from Saturday’s event, the women reportedly continued to protest across the street from the event, the source added.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024...ne-protest

The people who were allowed into the rally and didn't protest should be ashamed of themselves.

[Pat Mustard]

^So, it’s seems that Muslims weren’t denied entrance to the event, but disruptive people were.

Boru

The far left here in the US is so angry about Biden's response to Gaza that there's a real risk of them not voting for him -- or at all.

There isn't a far left in US politics. There's a far right (the republitraitors), a hard Thatcherite right (the Democrat power holders) and a very mild social democrat (the Progressives). Even 35 years ago none of the political poles in the US would have strayed much left of the centre ground.

[ShinyCrystals]

So, Trump isn’t going to win this, right? I ask because I am worried about him winning here.

[arewethereyet]

So, Trump isn’t going to win this, right? I ask because I am worried about him winning here.

We aren't going to know till it's done.

If he's allowed to remain in the race, there is a chance.

I still can't believe he was elected the first time...except that the people who were jacked up over a black man being president for 8 years were determined to go as far the other way as they could.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The far left here in the US is so angry about Biden's response to Gaza that there's a real risk of them not voting for him -- or at all.

There isn't a far left in US politics.  There's a far right (the republitraitors), a hard Thatcherite right (the Democrat power holders) and a very mild social democrat (the Progressives).  Even 35 years ago none of the political poles in the US would have strayed much left of the centre ground.

I was speaking in terms relative to American politics. I'd figured that was obvious, but apparently not. I'll make sure to include that caveat every time now, for your sake.

[no one]

Amerikkka, the land of foreigners, immigrants, and the destitute, has never actually been fond of foreigners, immigrants, or the destitute.

Little man trump has allowed the seething, infernal animosity that has been stewing under the lilly white skin of murica to rear its ugly head again.

The mindless zombies, who have never in their lives had a single original thought, latch on to the tit of indoctrination, and gobble up its rancid flavor-aid. All in the name of righteousness.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think it's still very early; we have several months before election day. I'm willing to agree that the next POTUS will be a Democrat or Republican (rather than any of the independent or 3rd party candidates), but not necessarily Trump or Biden - at this time.

What a daring thing to say!

Efforts are being made to block Trump from being on ballots & if SCOTUS were to say that he's disqualified for insurrection, then obviously he'll no longer be a candidate.

The SCOTUS with three of Trump's appointees? That SCOTUS? No, they will allow him onto ballots as they won't want to be thought of as impeding democracy.

With the influence peddling allegations/situation against Biden, something like an impeachment or whatever could mean he might also no longer be a candidate.

Even if the House can manage to lay charges, Biden still won't be convicted with 50 Dems in the Senate.

I could be wrong; I'm not a legal expert. I'm just guessing based on what's being reported in the news. If they are possible, then I think the likelihood is significant.

If you wanted me to venture a guess on who I think could be the POTUS candidates, I would say Harris vs. Haley (nothing more than just my own guess).

Those are the only real alternatives, sure. But this is much ado about nothing. Trump may or may not be sitting in the pen by polling day, but our courts work slowly enough.

What I'm trying to say is that the Gaza single-issue voters isn't necessarily what matters or the only thing that's going to matter for Biden.

I know. I've already acknowledged that.

Gaza doesn't only matter to American Muslim voters, it also matters to a broader range of American voters who aren't Muslims - regardless of whether or not any of them are single-issue voters.

I think it's fair to say Muslims are more likely to be single-issue voters about Gaza than non-Muslims. Should Biden risk 2 million votes with polls so dismal?

It can also have an impact on Trump; some Muslim Americans vote Republican, and some of them could be Gaza single-issue voters; also, not all (non-Muslim) Republicans or Right-leaning swing voters in general are for US support of Israel's atrocities against Gaza.

Do you have any numbers supporting these claims? How many Republican Muslims does Trump stand to lose, against how many Dem Muslims Biden stands to lose?

[Fake Messiah]

So, Trump isn’t going to win this, right? I ask because I am worried about him winning here.

Trump will definitely not have enough votes, so the question is how successful will he be in cheating.

[ShinyCrystals]

So, Trump isn’t going to win this, right? I ask because I am worried about him winning here.

Trump will definitely not have enough votes, so the question is how successful will he be in cheating.

That is why I am worried. He might try to get Russia to interfere with the election again.