2024 US Presidential Election

[Fireball]

Taking Biden's performance and calling him out to quit is a mistake, afaiac. It's been discussed and decided by the alleged best of the Democratic Party's advisors to be the best course, already. Going nutzo at this point is purely political theater, imo. I really think that nothing has changed, in terms of who will win.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I think Newsome would not only wipe the floor in any debate with Trump, but he would energize Dems himself. If -- repeat, if -- the Dems inveigh upon Biden to quit the campaign, he's the only reasonable replacement, I think.

Whitmer would be loud and proud too, but she doesn't have the national recognition of Newsome.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I think Newsome would not only wipe the floor in any debate with Trump, but he would energize Dems himself. If -- repeat, if -- the Dems inveigh upon Biden to quit the campaign, he's the only reasonable replacement, I think.

Whitmer would be loud and proud too, but she doesn't have the national recognition of Newsome.

It's impossible to predict this far out and polls don't mean all that much, but Newsome trails Trump by anywhere from 5 to 17 percent. Even after the cringey debate performance, Biden - out of all feasible replacements - still has the best chance to beat Trump.

Boru

[arewethereyet]

Of course I will not vote for Trump. but I sure would like to have a real choice for a change.

This election leadup makes me sad.

This is the best this country has? Say it ain't so.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Of course I will not vote for Trump. but I sure would like to have a real choice for a change.

This election leadup makes me sad.

This is the best this country has?  Say it ain't so.

How is this election NOT a real choice??

Boru

[arewethereyet]

Of course I will not vote for Trump. but I sure would like to have a real choice for a change.

This election leadup makes me sad.

This is the best this country has?  Say it ain't so.

How is this election NOT a real choice??

Boru

Once again it's the lesser of two evils.

I would like for there to really be a standout candidate.  Or even two capable candidates where the election would really be a contest.

This election is just sad.  

People are throwing out Kamala as a replacement for Biden...first of all - where the fuck has she been since the election?

[Fake Messiah]

Well, I wouldn't say that Biden is the lesser evil because actions speak louder than words, and he has made economy great, high employment, infrastructure, plan to tax the rich, insulin prices, student debt forgiveness, etc.

But he was bad at last debate, so what? Hillary won all the debates against Trump and said many super smart things and what did she accomplish except that people hated her even more?

[arewethereyet]

Of course I will not vote for Trump. but I sure would like to have a real choice for a change.

This election leadup makes me sad.

This is the best this country has?  Say it ain't so.

How is this election NOT a real choice??

Boru

I probably should have worded that better.  I would welcome an election where there are two standouts to choose from.  Standouts in a good way.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) praised CNN’s Dana Bash for allowing former President Trump to talk during the debate last week while answering a question about whether Trump will accept the election results.

Graham said he was comfortable with Trump saying he would accept the results only if it was a “fair and legal and good election” during the CNN presidential debate last week. In his response on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday, Graham reacted to Trump’s remarks and praised Bash for the handling of the debate.

“You know, y’all did a good job. You let him talk. You’re not fact checkers; you let him talk,” he told Bash.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/47...lts/mlite/

Translation: "I knowingly support a liar."

[Thumpalumpacus]

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (AJC) editorial board called on President Biden to end his reelection bid after “his alarming performance” at Thursday night’s debate.

In a piece published online Saturday evening, the board said the incumbent Democrat should step aside “for the good of the nation he has served so admirably for half a century.”

“Biden’s candidacy was grounded in his incumbency and the belief of Democratic leaders and pollsters that he stood the best chance of defeating Trump in November. That is no longer the case,” the board wrote. “That reality may be difficult to accept for a man whose personal and political lives have been defined by resiliency, but it is the truth.”

The board touted the “courage and dignity that have defined Biden’s political career,” but added, “Biden deserves a better exit from public life than the one he endured when he shuffled off the stage Thursday night.”

The editorial comes amid heightened concerns among some in the Democratic Party about leaving Biden on the ticket after his shaky performance during the first presidential debate against former President Trump on Thursday.

During the debate, Biden’s voice was raspy, and sources close to Biden said he had a cold. He stumbled through some of his answers and, at one point, appeared to lose his train of thought mid-sentence.

Biden and close allies have sought to assuage public concerns following the debate, saying Biden had a bad night but that one debate performance does not define a person’s term in office, but the AJC editorial board said, “These responses are insulting to the American people.”

“This wasn’t a bad night; it was confirmation of the worst fears of some of Biden’s most ardent supporters — that after 36 years in the U.S. Senate, eight more as vice president and a term in the White House, age has finally caught up to him,” the board wrote.

The AJC editorial board warned of what it characterizes as the imminent threat Trump poses to the republic. The board chastised Trump for lying throughout the debate – more than 30 times, according to a CNN fact check – but stressed the evermore importance of having a strong candidate atop the Democratic ticket.

“Trump’s performance Thursday night should have prompted leaders in his party to repudiate his falsehoods. But it didn’t.

“Biden has pledged to do all he can to prevent Trump from returning to the White House. The election is still four months away,” the board wrote. “If he truly hopes to defeat Trump, he must pass the torch to the next generation of Democratic leaders and urge the party to nominate another candidate at its convention in Chicago in August.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/47...tial-race/