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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 2:06 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
Would you believe it from a meme?
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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 2:09 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
Praise Allah! ...and his prophet Muhammad, pbuh!
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 2:42 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: (September 26, 2023 at 11:32 am)h4ym4n Wrote: “There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.”
Post up your evidence ronedee. But investigate if your evidence has been refuted first, please.
Let’s discuss.
If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
I didn’t watch the video because it’s probably just this guys opinion.
Does he have a Nobel prize?
Peered reviewed papers?
Nothing but a YouTube vid?
This works for believers. They just have to believe.
Your god told you to stay stupid.
Proverbs 3:5-6
New International Version
5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 2:46 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: (September 26, 2023 at 11:32 am)h4ym4n Wrote: “There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.”
Post up your evidence ronedee. But investigate if your evidence has been refuted first, please.
Let’s discuss.
If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
Not an atheist.
Next.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 4:01 pm
Sadly, the video has no references, so who knows if what's said there is legit?
If such scientific conclusions about the shroud have been made, show me the published journal, not a YouTube video.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 4:05 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 2:46 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Next.
for example, historian from Turin, Andrea Nicolotti, says:
no. it is not really the burial shroud of jesus christ. that is in fact the opinion not only of myself but most people who study it.
there are three ways that we can say it is not really the burial shroud of jesus christ:
1 there is no testimony of the shroud that dates from before the middle ages and in fact those that do exist from the middle ages say that the shroud is a fake it is not a real relic.
2 textile itself the type or style of weave of the shroud is typical of the middle ages and does not exist back in antiquity at the time of jesus christ.
3 in 1988 the shroud was carbon dated and the results of the carbon dated verified what we already knew which is that the shroud derives from the medieval period
also, if someone can do an experiment by actually putting some paint on their own face then pressing a cloth against it and what you would see is something very deformed, not at all like what we see on this on the shroud of Turin.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 4:30 pm
Quote:There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.
Considering you have not around you have only whinned because you can't defend your own position instead all you do is push some religious apologist blather and think you have done meaningful. You have not 
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 4:38 pm
Quote:If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
1. Why would I believe something simply because another Atheist said so?
2. Also he's not an atheist
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 5:09 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 10:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 26, 2023 at 9:10 am)ronedee Wrote: There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.
Starting with you. You haven't made a single argument. All that you do is just call everyone stupid. There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence. Just mindless banter and circle-jerking from you.
His rational is that if it is christian and exists on the internet and then it is real/factual. Nothing further is needed except for personal attacks.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 7:00 pm
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(September 26, 2023 at 10:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (September 26, 2023 at 9:10 am)ronedee Wrote: There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.
Starting with you. You haven't made a single argument. All that you do is just call everyone stupid. There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence. Just mindless banter and circle-jerking from you.
that’s really is because she is stupid, and can’t grasp the concept of facts don’t care who you believe or what you can find people to say, but can only be discovered by repeatable applications of methods that can be demonstrated to function as intended.
it doesn’t matter if she simply lacks the brain cells to grasp it, or if too many of her brain cells have been embalmed with jesus juice, or if her brain cells all malfunction because emotional neediness overwhelmed the non-reptilian parts of her brain, the effects are she is too stupid.
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