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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 25, 2023 at 8:16 pm
(September 25, 2023 at 8:57 am)ronedee Wrote: Like I said in the beginning...It's back to plain old REBELLION for you!
In the Middle Ages artists exaggerated the body proportions of their subjects to lend them more gravitas. The artist who forged the Shroud was forced to use the contemporary style lest people judged it to be a fake at first glance. But if you saw a real man with the proportions of the image on the Shroud, One, he would have towered over his disciples in the Levant, and Two, his head would seem much too small.
Three, the wound from the nail in the cross comes from his hand. That would not do in a Roman crucifixion.
Four, what's the point of covering his genitals for modesty in the burial when no one would ever look at him anyway? That only makes sense if it's a painting.
I can do this all day.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 9:10 am
(September 25, 2023 at 8:16 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (September 25, 2023 at 8:57 am)ronedee Wrote: Like I said in the beginning...It's back to plain old REBELLION for you!
In the Middle Ages artists exaggerated the body proportions of their subjects to lend them more gravitas. The artist who forged the Shroud was forced to use the contemporary style lest people judged it to be a fake at first glance. But if you saw a real man with the proportions of the image on the Shroud, One, he would have towered over his disciples in the Levant, and Two, his head would seem much too small.
Three, the wound from the nail in the cross comes from his hand. That would not do in a Roman crucifixion.
Four, what's the point of covering his genitals for modesty in the burial when no one would ever look at him anyway? That only makes sense if it's a painting.
I can do this all day. You were the only one interested in some logical debate on the shroud. All your questions are answered in the
longer versions of the videos.
But, as a whole; no one here cares to flip their world upside-down. Understandable...and predictable. This is the reason
many intelligent people have left this place. There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence. Just mindless
banter and circle-jerking. The slightest "interest" in an opposing view, by any one of you, is eventually crushed with
a stab in the back, due to peer pressure! Is there anyone who can be an independent thinker here?
Over the 12 or so years I've been around here, this place has had it's collection of idiots, but there were a few decent
atheists I had the pleasure of knowing. And in one case I've talked with on another site. But, this place is reduced to a
kindergarten of insulting brats and bathroom humor. Not surprising, but disappointing. Every visit back is a confirmation
of the reality here: a vacuum, void of any love, peace or understanding. Unless it fits the resident narrative. The irony
is the "Christianity" sign hung on the door! Should say.... "Christianity Ridicule Here".
I never thought I would [change] anyone here. I've never tried. My position has always been, "change my faith"? But again
my Faith has been increased being around atheists. Not because they don't have an argument. It's because their argument
is empty. Like their lives. Subraction isn't an argument. If you want to change your life or others, you need to Add to it.
I still Love all of you. Jesus does too. I'll pray that each of you finds the evidence you need to believe...IF evidence is
what you want? Peace
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 10:58 am
(September 26, 2023 at 9:10 am)ronedee Wrote: There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.
Starting with you. You haven't made a single argument. All that you do is just call everyone stupid. There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence. Just mindless banter and circle-jerking from you.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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September 26, 2023 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2023 at 11:33 am by h4ym4n.)
“There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.”
Post up your evidence ronedee. But investigate if your evidence has been refuted first, please.
Let’s discuss.
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 12:15 pm
(September 25, 2023 at 11:06 am)ronedee Wrote: (September 25, 2023 at 10:36 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Does an actual boobie deserve a boobie prize for calling someone else a boobie?
Is the best you guys can do is sending out the Village Idiot to do battle?
You seem fussy, Did you fill your diaper again?
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 12:27 pm
I don't think trolling is compatible with the teachings of Jesus. Paul would probably be okay with it, though.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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September 26, 2023 at 1:27 pm
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(September 26, 2023 at 9:10 am)ronedee Wrote: Over the 12 or so years I've been around here,
Over 12 years here and you still think that we haven't heard all the arguments for the shroud in Turin because we didn't watch your video. As if there weren't countless other topics about the shroud opened by Christians who, unlike you, tried to make some arguments.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 11:32 am)h4ym4n Wrote: “There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.”
Post up your evidence ronedee. But investigate if your evidence has been refuted first, please.
Let’s discuss.
If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
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RE: SCIENCE FINALLY PROVES....
September 26, 2023 at 1:52 pm
(September 26, 2023 at 1:49 pm)ronedee Wrote: (September 26, 2023 at 11:32 am)h4ym4n Wrote: “There is no exchange of ideas or debates over evidence.”
Post up your evidence ronedee. But investigate if your evidence has been refuted first, please.
Let’s discuss.
If you heard it from an Atheist, would you believe?
I thought you were leaving? You made a big declarative exit, hopefully, you're not as fussy
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September 26, 2023 at 1:52 pm
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