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Changes on YouTube
#31
RE: Changes on YouTube
Short ads don't fuss me. I grew up when commercials were often as good as, if not better than, the shows. When I go to listen to a song on YouTube if I have to wait 5 seconds to skip an ad it just doesn't even register...not the interruption and often not the thing being advertised. I pay for so many streaming services that my limited use of YouTube is not worth paying for. However, I seldom watch movies or shows. I am most likely to watch music videos...When MTV actually played music videos I didn't have the option of choosing what I wanted to hear/watch, nor did I have the option to skip the three minutes of ads that came every few minutes.
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#32
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 8:16 pm)Varium Wrote:
(November 21, 2023 at 7:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You don’t get to dictate the rules on someone else’s playground. This may come as a shock to you, but YouTube is a privately owned business, not a public utility.

Boru
I understand this, but the problem is they're dictating what I do, what I do affects no other person on the platform, at most it takes a few pennies away from a billion dollar company. If I was doing something such as uploading a certain kind of content to the platform and they took it down, I would completely understand. However, what I am doing is none of YouTube's business. Also, "You don’t get to dictate the rules on someone else’s playground." I'm not dictating any rules, I'm criticizing them.

What you do on YouTube absolutely IS YouTube’s business. It doesn’t matter if you’re creating content or just watching videos.

There are millions and millions of videos on that platform that you get to watch for free. So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?

Fuxxake.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#33
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 8:34 pm)to BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(November 21, 2023 at 8:16 pm)Varium Wrote: I understand this, but the problem is they're dictating what I do, what I do affects no other person on the platform, at most it takes a few pennies away from a billion dollar company. If I was doing something such as uploading a certain kind of content to the platform and they took it down, I would completely understand. However, what I am doing is none of YouTube's business. Also, "You don’t get to dictate the rules on someone else’s playground." I'm not dictating any rules, I'm criticizing them.

What you do on YouTube absolutely IS YouTube’s business. It doesn’t matter if you’re creating content or just watching videos.

There are millions and millions of videos on that platform that you get to watch for free. So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?

Fuxxake.

Boru

All I want to do is simply avoid a minor inconvenience, YouTube is not affected by me avoiding advertisements. However, I AM affected by having to watch them, even an occasional 5-6 second inconvenience is still an inconvenience, especially when it happens so often. Keep in mind, I watch YouTube a lot, there's a lot of great content on the website I enjoy watching, so I like to avoid even just the small things when I can, so I'd rather take the 15 seconds to download an ad-blocker and avoid these.  I should have a right to use a third-party source in order to avoid these, but YouTube restricting the use of these restricts a freedom to use software as I please, even if you want to argue that YouTube isn't technically "software".
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#34
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 8:16 pm)Varium Wrote: Also, "You don’t get to dictate the rules on someone else’s playground." I'm not dictating any rules, I'm criticizing them.

Great. If you don't like their rules, don't use Youtube for videos? There's Vimeo and other platforms, I think.

If you need a ride to work, but don't like a bumper-sticker on my truck, you're free to ride, walk, or buy your own vehicle, and I'm free to suffer in silence, or pull off and drop you off early, if your complaints tire me. If you don't like their policy, vote with your feet -- or mouse, as it were.

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#35
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 9:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 21, 2023 at 8:16 pm)Varium Wrote: Also, "You don’t get to dictate the rules on someone else’s playground." I'm not dictating any rules, I'm criticizing them.

Great. If you don't like their rules, don't use Youtube for videos? There's Vimeo and other platforms, I think.

If you need a ride to work, but don't like a bumper-sticker on my truck, you're free to ride, walk, or buy your own vehicle, and I'm free to suffer in silence, or pull off and drop you off early, if your complaints tire me. If you don't like their policy, vote with your feet -- or mouse, as it were.

There's too many upsides to YouTube for me to move to other platforms, why should I leave a website because of one rule I find dumb?
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#36
RE: Changes on YouTube
I recall seeing ads in the dim and misty, on youtube. Not sure why I don't see them, these days.  Huh Not complaining, mind you. But all I do is listen to a few songs from my misspent youth, and watch a few math sites and some wood working tool tutorials.
If you get to thinking you’re a person of some influence, try ordering somebody else’s dog around.
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#37
RE: Changes on YouTube
Varium
(November 21, 2023 at 8:34 pm)to BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What you do on YouTube absolutely IS YouTube’s business. It doesn’t matter if you’re creating content or just watching videos.

There are millions and millions of videos on that platform that you get to watch for free. So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?

Fuxxake.

Boru

Quote:All I want to do is simply avoid a minor inconvenience, YouTube is not affected by me avoiding advertisements. However, I AM affected by having to watch them, even an occasional 5-6 second inconvenience is still an inconvenience, especially when it happens so often. Keep in mind, I watch YouTube a lot, there's a lot of great content on the website I enjoy watching, so I like to avoid even just the small things when I can, so I'd rather take the 15 seconds to download an ad-blocker and avoid these.  I should have a right to use a third-party source in order to avoid these, but YouTube restricting the use of these restricts a freedom to use software as I please, even if you want to argue that YouTube isn't technically "software".


But you don’t have to watch the ads, anymore than you have to read the print ads in a magazine.

You have the ‘right’ to use an ad blocker on a site that prohibits ad blockers? Who says so? 

You seem to have trouble grasping the idea that a privately held company isn’t the place to insist on your ‘rights’. For example, Atheist Forums has some restrictions on what you can and cannot post. This in no way infringes on your freedom of speech. Same-same with YouTube - your ‘rights’ don’t apply.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#38
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 9:29 pm)Varium Wrote:
(November 21, 2023 at 9:23 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Great. If you don't like their rules, don't use Youtube for videos? There's Vimeo and other platforms, I think.

If you need a ride to work, but don't like a bumper-sticker on my truck, you're free to ride, walk, or buy your own vehicle, and I'm free to suffer in silence, or pull off and drop you off early, if your complaints tire me. If you don't like their policy, vote with your feet -- or mouse, as it were.

There's too many upsides to YouTube for me to move to other platforms, why should I leave a website because of one rule I find dumb?

Then why start a thread for what is apparently such a minor inconvenience about how someone else wants their own property to be used? That was my point. In the scheme of things, this is a triviality, apparently even to you, because you still use their services and free of charge at that.

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#39
RE: Changes on YouTube
This time next year we'll be talking about YouTub in the past tense.
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#40
RE: Changes on YouTube
(November 21, 2023 at 9:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 21, 2023 at 9:29 pm)Varium Wrote: There's too many upsides to YouTube for me to move to other platforms, why should I leave a website because of one rule I find dumb?

Then why start a thread for what is apparently such a minor inconvenience about how someone else wants their own property to be used? That was my point. In the scheme of things, this is a triviality, apparently even to you, because you still use their services and free of charge at that.

I didn't start the thread, at most I expressed my viewpoint on it.
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