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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 21, 2023 at 10:12 pm
(November 21, 2023 at 9:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Varium
(November 21, 2023 at 8:34 pm)to BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What you do on YouTube absolutely IS YouTube’s business. It doesn’t matter if you’re creating content or just watching videos.
There are millions and millions of videos on that platform that you get to watch for free. So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?
Fuxxake.
Boru
Quote:All I want to do is simply avoid a minor inconvenience, YouTube is not affected by me avoiding advertisements. However, I AM affected by having to watch them, even an occasional 5-6 second inconvenience is still an inconvenience, especially when it happens so often. Keep in mind, I watch YouTube a lot, there's a lot of great content on the website I enjoy watching, so I like to avoid even just the small things when I can, so I'd rather take the 15 seconds to download an ad-blocker and avoid these. I should have a right to use a third-party source in order to avoid these, but YouTube restricting the use of these restricts a freedom to use software as I please, even if you want to argue that YouTube isn't technically "software".
But you don’t have to watch the ads, anymore than you have to read the print ads in a magazine.
You have the ‘right’ to use an ad blocker on a site that prohibits ad blockers? Who says so?
You seem to have trouble grasping the idea that a privately held company isn’t the place to insist on your ‘rights’. For example, Atheist Forums has some restrictions on what you can and cannot post. This in no way infringes on your freedom of speech. Same-same with YouTube - your ‘rights’ don’t apply.
Boru
Never said I have the right to use an ad blocker, I said I should. Also I understand that YouTube is a private company and can make its own choices, never said they aren't and I never said they can't. I'm just saying it's retarded that they're not allowing me to avoid this inconvenience.
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 21, 2023 at 11:23 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2023 at 11:34 pm by Angrboda.)
(November 21, 2023 at 9:21 pm)Varium Wrote: (November 21, 2023 at 8:34 pm)to BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What you do on YouTube absolutely IS YouTube’s business. It doesn’t matter if you’re creating content or just watching videos.
There are millions and millions of videos on that platform that you get to watch for free. So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?
Fuxxake.
Boru
All I want to do is simply avoid a minor inconvenience, YouTube is not affected by me avoiding advertisements. However, I AM affected by having to watch them, even an occasional 5-6 second inconvenience is still an inconvenience, especially when it happens so often. Keep in mind, I watch YouTube a lot, there's a lot of great content on the website I enjoy watching, so I like to avoid even just the small things when I can, so I'd rather take the 15 seconds to download an ad-blocker and avoid these. I should have a right to use a third-party source in order to avoid these, but YouTube restricting the use of these restricts a freedom to use software as I please, even if you want to argue that YouTube isn't technically "software".
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 12:58 am
(November 21, 2023 at 8:34 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So how, by insisting that you sit through a few 5-6 second ads, are they dictating what you do? Is there some obscure law that’s forcing you to be on YouTube?
Boru
They've been averaging 90+ seconds. I've found that if you don't log out you don't see more commercials.
Now that I've said that...
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 10:35 am
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2023 at 10:38 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
(November 21, 2023 at 9:42 pm)Varium Wrote: (November 21, 2023 at 9:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Then why start a thread for what is apparently such a minor inconvenience about how someone else wants their own property to be used? That was my point. In the scheme of things, this is a triviality, apparently even to you, because you still use their services and free of charge at that.
I didn't start the thread, at most I expressed my viewpoint on it.
I stand corrected, I wasn't paying attention. I still think it's not worth any worry. I still think it's a triviality.
(November 21, 2023 at 10:12 pm)Varium Wrote: Never said I have the right to use an ad blocker, I said I should. Also I understand that YouTube is a private company and can make its own choices, never said they aren't and I never said they can't. I'm just saying it's retarded that they're not allowing me to avoid this inconvenience.
They're a business, not a charity. Those servers cost money.
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 10:44 am
(November 22, 2023 at 10:35 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: They're a business, not a charity. Those servers cost money.
By blocking ad-blockers, not only are people just going to bypass this, but more people actually going to learn about ad-blockers, which means that YouTube will lose more money. I didn't even have an ad-blocker at the time of this update, just an add-on that greatly improved YouTube. So, YouTube wrongfully detected that my add-on was an ad-blocker and I was forced to disable it. Out of spite, I downloaded an ad-blocker add-on just in spite against YouTube (lame and petty, I know). So, all YouTube is doing is making more people learn about ad-blockers and losing more money.
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 10:53 am
(November 22, 2023 at 10:44 am)Varium Wrote: So, all YouTube is doing is making more people learn about ad-blockers and losing more money.
It's not like ad-blockers were top secret or something. The reason why Youtube works to detect ad-blockers is because so many people use them. As for their losing money, well, they're doing better than you or I. This doesn't seem to be strangling their revenue.
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 3:51 pm
(November 22, 2023 at 10:53 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It's not like ad-blockers were top secret or something. The reason why Youtube works to detect ad-blockers is because so many people use them. As for their losing money, well, they're doing better than you or I. This doesn't seem to be strangling their revenue.
"This doesn't seem to be strangling their revenue." So they had no reason to ban ab-blockers?
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RE: Changes on YouTube
November 22, 2023 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2023 at 4:06 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(November 22, 2023 at 3:51 pm)Varium Wrote: (November 22, 2023 at 10:53 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: It's not like ad-blockers were top secret or something. The reason why Youtube works to detect ad-blockers is because so many people use them. As for their losing money, well, they're doing better than you or I. This doesn't seem to be strangling their revenue.
"This doesn't seem to be strangling their revenue." So they had no reason to ban ab-blockers?
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you've never managed a business.
Anyway, go on with your complaining. I'm off to find a more interesting discussion, have a happy day.
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