[split] Are Questions About God Important?

[FrustratedFool]

I think it likely that nothing is objectively important.

However many things may be subjectively important to certain individuals at certain times.
And those people may or may not believe in God.

The question: Does God exist is a question many find important for their lives.

[Ahriman]

I think it likely that nothing is objectively important.

However many things may be subjectively important to certain individuals at certain times.
And those people may or may not believe in God.

The question: Does God exist is a question many find important for their lives.

Need for food, need for hydration, need for sexual release, need for shelter......all objectively important.

[FrustratedFool]

How so?
Some things can be objectively required for your continued survival.
But that survival is only subjectively important to you.

Importance is a value judgement.

[Ahriman]

How so?
Some things can be objectively required for your continued survival.  
But that survival is only subjectively important to you.

Try being severely dehydrated and then tell me water isn't profoundly more important than playing video games.

[FrustratedFool]

It would be very important to me.
It wouldn't be objectively important.

[Ahriman]

It would be very important to me.
It wouldn't be objectively important.

Lol okay dude. I guess people don't need to drink water, must not be that important.

[FrustratedFool]

You are confusing need and importance. And confusing subjective and objective.
But it, ironically, isn't important.

[The Grand Nudger]

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to talk about the value or importance of water as subjective. That comment about water is demonstrably not based solely in or a misattribution of some fact about me, arising from me alone as a single human subject, even if I also happen to value water subjectively as well. Simply put, the purported value or importance of water is not a Fool fact, or a Nudger fact, or an Ahri fact. It's a water fact. It's at least relative...but then water is also important to non human things and to non biological interactions. This is extremely apparent here as we live on waterworld - but we can repeat this observation throughout the galaxy.

We can certainly come up with purely subjective truth assertions about water - don't get me wrong..but to an objectivist, those statements would either be wrong, or need to be translated for content accuracy - be that subjective, relative, or noncognitive.

What literally is unimportant to these distinctions, is whether or not a god exists. The truth statements are still categorized as whatever they would be in a world with or without gods. If things are truly only subjectively important than even when we add a god to the universe, they are still truly only subjectively important. If things can be objectively important, then if we add a god..or subtract a god, they can still be objectively important.

[SimpleCaveman]

It’s also not the way that Istvan worded it when he said, “Things are equally important with or without God.”
I would change that to say that the big questions are important before we know whether a divine being exists or not.

That is -exactly- the same as saying these things are or aren't important regardless of god.  

No, it’s not. I claim that the change in emphasis is important. Before is a better way to say it than regardless. Once we decide whether God exists or not, then the importance of the questions changes depending on how we’ve decided. Please reread what I had afterwards with that in mind. Let me know where it was unclear as an explanation of this point.

If a divine being exists, then the other questions are very important for everyone. If not, then they are only as important as a person wants them to be. If some person doesn’t think they are important, then how would you argue they are?

I protect the weak.  I feed the hungry.  That's what I'm supposed to do.  I was built for it.  I'm unencumbered by guilts and doubts and reservations that prevent other people from doing this.  If not me...then who?

And I thank you for that.

...or else...you see..I would have been someone else, something else, with some different mission or purpose........we would not be talking..about me.

Exactly! And what is the reason you are here and not someone else? You gave a list of events that occurred. Could those events have happened in another way? Did they have to happen just as they did?

[Bucky Ball]

No, it’s not. I claim that the change in emphasis is important. Before is a better way to say it than regardless. Once we decide whether God exists or not, then the importance of the questions changes depending on how we’ve decided. Please reread what I had afterwards with that in mind. Let me know where it was unclear as an explanation of this point.

If a divine being exists, then the other questions are very important for everyone. If not, then they are only as important as a person wants them to be. If some person doesn’t think they are important, then how would you argue they are?

Actually this is a site for non-believers. You can assume, for the most part we are not the beginners you obviously are. 
There are no gods, and there is (without very specific definitions) no "god". 
Not all religions (including for  most of their history the Hebrew religion of the Bible). 
Some of their sects believed in "resurrection", but all the dead went to Sheol, and no one was raised until the last day, and THEN they did not go to heaven. 
So there is no "heaven" for humans in the Bible. 
What makes you think the only god you happen to know about, is either the most authentic one, or even worth a moments consideration