Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

@ShinyCrystals

Are you saying God doesn't exist because He isn't a female?

Any god worth its salt would be gender fluid.

Boru

[Ahriman]

@ShinyCrystals

Are you saying God doesn't exist because He isn't a female?

I listed other reasons why God wouldn't or can't exist. Even then, I was never saying God can't exist because he is not female, but it would make more sense for him to be female; the biases of humanity just thought of him being male instead of female.

Seriously, how can you make replies like that asking me about the reasons why I believe something when you can't seem to read what I said properly, let alone not acknowledge all of it since there was more to what I said than the female part.

I agree with the bolded part. 51% of all humans are female; I wonder why God is most commonly thought of to be male?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I listed other reasons why God wouldn't or can't exist. Even then, I was never saying God can't exist because he is not female, but it would make more sense for him to be female; the biases of humanity just thought of him being male instead of female.

Seriously, how can you make replies like that asking me about the reasons why I believe something when you can't seem to read what I said properly, let alone not acknowledge all of it since there was more to what I said than the female part.

I agree with the bolded part. 51% of all humans are female; I wonder why God is most commonly thought of to be male?

Patriarchal societies ALWAYS put a male god in the top spot. The reasons why should be obvious.

Boru

[SimpleCaveman]

Any god worth its salt would be gender fluid.

Gender is a construct (right word?) of our universe. Rather say, any god worth its salt would be beyond gender.

[ShinyCrystals]

Any god worth its salt would be gender fluid.

Gender is a construct (right word?) of our universe. Rather say, any god worth its salt would be beyond gender.

From what I have seen, many people don't seem to think that way when referring to God, as many people refer to him as male rather than beyond gender. Even then, the fact that God is referred to as male is something that reflects humanity's (mostly man's) biases, especially from long ago from when God was first thought up by humans, and I am sure by then and some years after, the male part of humanity did suppress or did not think highly of women, did they not?

[SimpleCaveman]

but it would make more sense for him to be female;

I agree with the bolded part. 51% of all humans are female; I wonder why God is most commonly thought of to be male?

The main reason (for this discussion) is, as Boru said, we are mostly a patriarchal society. Men need fathers. It’s important to our formation as men to have a good father.

At the same time, as before, God is beyond, or above, gender. The concept is only an anthropomorphization(?). God is represented as both a father and a mother in the Bible. It is the characteristics of fatherhood and motherhood that are more representative of God.

[Angrboda]

I agree with the bolded part. 51% of all humans are female; I wonder why God is most commonly thought of to be male?

The main reason (for this discussion) is, as Boru said, we are mostly a patriarchal society. Men need fathers. It’s important to our formation as men to have a good father.

At the same time, as before, God is beyond, or above, gender. The concept is only an anthropomorphization(?). God is represented as both a father and a mother in the Bible. It is the characteristics of fatherhood and motherhood that are more representative of God.

What of God isn't an anthropomorphization?

[The Grand Nudger]

Theism is identified by it's anthropomorphizing divinity. That's the whole difference between a/the deist god and a/the theist god. Personal, and intervening. If you don't believe in a god like that, then you're not a theist, plain and simple.

Just another one of those heretical catholics..in name only.... that make up the majority of your cohort by self reporting and the anecdotal experience of your witdoctors. Further, the idea that the god of cathol is represented as both male and female is not true biblically, nor is it true in the many centuries of the development of the faith thereafter. You silly fuckers invented a demi-goddess to fill the feminine role.....

You should be ashamed - this attempt to launder the basis of your faith is insulting.

[SimpleCaveman]

Gender is a construct (right word?) of our universe. Rather say, any god worth its salt would be beyond gender.

From what I have seen, many people don't seem to think that way when referring to God, as many people refer to him as male rather than beyond gender.

Too true. We very often think of God, like someone said, as just a more powerful human. That gets us into trouble.

Even then, the fact that God is referred to as male is something that reflects humanity's (mostly man's) biases, especially from long ago from when God was first thought up by humans, and I am sure by then and some years after, the male part of humanity did suppress or did not think highly of women, did they not?

Don’t know. Wasn’t there. :-)

[SimpleCaveman]

Hi Angrboda,

At the same time, as before, God is beyond, or above, gender. The concept is only an anthropomorphization(?). God is represented as both a father and a mother in the Bible. It is the characteristics of fatherhood and motherhood that are more representative of God.

What of God isn't an anthropomorphization?

You’re completely right. Other than certain philosophical concepts, not much isn’t. That’s kind of all we have. We only have what we can see and understand in our world. We can try to extend those to God, but we’re taking a finite understanding to a level far beyond/outside/different from us. We do our best, but forgetting that it’s only our best very often gets us into trouble.