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I believe the Bible is God's Word
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 11, 2024 at 12:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Help. Will someone please help?

Sure. Deesse23 probably means that a universe without stars and galaxies is still a universe. Since you're so knowledgeable about cosmoslogy and can apparently follow the math, how much faster would the initial expansion have to be for stars and galaxies not to form? A citation is fine, I never got past freshman calculus.

An implication of that is that we wouldn't be able to observe the universe if the Hubble constant weren't approximately what it is. Though, as you say, a universe without stars (or even one without baryonic matter) is still a universe, whether we are here to observe it or not.

Though I fail to see what any of this has to do with gods or their words.
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 11, 2024 at 12:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 3:53 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Help. Will someone please help?

Sure. Deesse23 probably means that a universe without stars and galaxies is still a universe. Since you're so knowledgeable about cosmoslogy and can apparently follow the math, how much faster would the initial expansion have to be for stars and galaxies not to form? A citation is fine, I never got past freshman calculus.

Are you sure snowy wasn't pleading to his god?
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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RE: I believe the Bible is God's Word
(September 10, 2024 at 2:58 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(September 10, 2024 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you can show the rate of expansion could have had a different value, there's a Nobel waiting for you. And if the rate of expansion had been slightly faster, we still get a universe.
If faster, galaxies & stars wouldn't have formed.


You can have a garbage bin.
You can try to throw a ball of paper into the bin.
If the ball of paper is too slow, it will land outside the bin.
If it is too fast, it lands outside the bin.
If the speed is just right, it lands inside the bin.

Unfortunately, this concept doesn't tell us who threw the ball, if it was a human, an alien, a god, an alien-god, smurfs, some ball throwing machine, or just nature.

There is no evidence of any magical man doing anything.

There was a moment in time when it was thought that thunder, lightning was cause by the gods.
There was a moment when it was thought that disease was done by the gods.
There was a moment when it was thought that the gods control pregnancy. “They bless you with a child”.
It was thought that when the gods bless you get get better crops.
If you do sacrifices, if you offer some animal, your first born kid or some virgin (the gods have sex with virgins?), the gods accept your gift and as a thank you note, they do you a favor.

Such things have been replaced by science. Once science gives an explanation, we never return to the god of the gaps argument
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