Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 12, 2025, 11:59 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:16 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 7, 2025 at 11:23 am)Sheldon Wrote: Since  atheism is not a belief, or a claim, it is the absence or lack of one particular belief, they seem to be  going against that trend. In many parts of the world, at no small risk as well. 

You do not have an absence of belief. 
That is precisely what atheism is, and precisely what I have.
Quote:Your brain doesn't just go blank if I ask about your thoughts on any number of propositions regarding God. 
Straw man fallacy. 
Quote:Your brain is full of attitudes and beliefs and judgment,
Indeed, but then I never claimed atheists don't hold beliefs, only that atheism is not a belief, but the lack or absence of one, it has neither dogma nor doctrine. 
Quote:You cannot be as verbose as you are and truly think your brain goes into a comatose state when constructing beliefs.
Another straw man fallacy...again I am done explaining why, or you will never learn. 

Atheism
noun

1. disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

I shan't even feign surprise that you ignored the main point, which is that your claim to understand the psychology of atheists is not just woefully incorrect, but at odds with well established psychological research.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
Hmn, let's test this theory. Would it be safe to say, John, that the reason you don't believe in other gods, and do believe in the one god among thousands that you do, is that you have negative attitudes about the others and a positive attitude about the one?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Indeed, but then I never claimed atheists don't hold beliefs, only that atheism is not a belief, but the lack or absence of one, it has neither dogma nor doctrine. 

Good, because who cares what athe-ism as a system, or philosophy, or ideology, entails. I'm talking about atheists, individuals who do have beliefs and attitudes.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 11:53 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 7, 2025 at 11:32 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Not any psychology I'm familiar with this again you creating made up psychology try and shoehorn your make-believe theory into reality

personal anecdotes aren't data. 
Irony overload. 
Quote:everyone's experience here has been consistent with my correlation:
Not even remotely true. 
Quote: they have negative relational attitudes, and they're also atheists. 
Wrong, that is not my experience, and of course that is a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy if ever there was one, correlation is not causation. 
Quote:The only debate is whether the correlation is causal.
You have been told repeatedly, by every atheist who has responded, that it is not, quod erat demonstrandum.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
How does "I don't believe in a god or gods" translate to a belief?

I don't believe in Bigfoot either...also, not a belief.
I'm your huckleberry.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How does "I don't believe in a god or gods" translate to a belief?

I don't believe in Bigfoot either...also, not a belief.

What…what ABOUT Bigfoot??

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
Looks like we are finally getting to real meat of this. Jonny thinks non belief is actually belief. I also assume the thinks bald is a hair color and Powering your TV Off is just another channel.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

      Conservative trigger warning.
[Image: s-l640.jpg][Image: shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBjdQ4tzp0y16OBYXxG...s&usqp=CAc]
                                                                                         
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 7, 2025 at 12:51 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: How does "I don't believe in a god or gods" translate to a belief?

I don't believe in Bigfoot either...also, not a belief.

What…what ABOUT Bigfoot??

Boru

I suppose I am an abigfootist.
I'm your huckleberry.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:49 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Would it be safe to say, John, that the reason you don't believe in other gods, and do believe in the one god among thousands that you do, is that you have negative attitudes about the others and a positive attitude about the one?

Correct; it almost certainly plays a role and colors the way I evaluate evidence for them.
Reply
RE: In your opinion what causes christians to believe in Jesus
(May 7, 2025 at 12:49 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(May 7, 2025 at 12:41 pm)Sheldon Wrote: Indeed, but then I never claimed atheists don't hold beliefs, only that atheism is not a belief, but the lack or absence of one, it has neither dogma nor doctrine. 

Good, because who cares what athe-ism as a system, or philosophy, or ideology, entails.
It is isn't a philosophy, or an ideology, or a system of any kind, and what it entails is the lack or absence of belief in any deity or deities, and that hilarious hyphen says it all really. A-theism would be more apropos, as in asymptotic, asexual, amoral, the a donates a lack or absence, as in the lack or absence of theism. Did you really receive a university education? 
Quote: I'm talking about atheists, individuals who do have beliefs and attitudes.
Exactly, in response to a claim I made about atheism, again this false equivalence speaks volumes.
Reply



Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Jesus wants passionate christians purplepurpose 3 876 April 1, 2023 at 3:50 am
Last Post: Goosebump
  Why is Jesus Circumcised and not the rest of the christians ? Megabullshit 23 6642 February 9, 2020 at 3:20 pm
Last Post: BrianSoddingBoru4
  Search for Causes Lek 202 23942 January 9, 2020 at 2:47 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  In your opinion purplepurpose 20 6475 July 9, 2017 at 7:17 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 278 70892 January 19, 2017 at 8:19 am
Last Post: Little Rik
  Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried? Firefighter01 0 572 August 31, 2016 at 3:19 am
Last Post: Firefighter01
  Evidence and causes for doubt LadyForCamus 43 10022 March 11, 2016 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  AF friends, an opinion on Bible debate, please drfuzzy 25 6407 October 1, 2015 at 10:50 am
Last Post: houseofcantor
  What is your Opinion on Having Required Classes in Logic in Schools? Salacious B. Crumb 43 11111 August 4, 2015 at 12:01 am
Last Post: BitchinHitchins
  Opinion on this Creed Kingpin 80 19865 July 25, 2015 at 5:41 am
Last Post: pocaracas



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)