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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 1:36 am
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The original published text was extensively checked and evaluated by many major language models!
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 1:52 am
(September 21, 2025 at 1:36 am)panpan Wrote: The original published text was extensively checked and evaluated by many major language models!
That isn't necessarily a good thing. LLMs are frequently wrong.
Please answer this question, in one paragraph or less: Where did this alleged creative "Intelligence" come from?
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 5:57 am
panpan Wrote:Ethics is not subjective, nor is it merely a social construct. It is the logically inevitable necessity that arises from acquired consciousness.
If ethics is not subjective then why do different societies have different ethics and why does ethics change over time? For example, in some societies gay marriage is immoral while in others it's moral? Or why was slavery in one society deemed as moral but then seen as immoral if ethics is objective?
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 6:28 am
(September 21, 2025 at 1:36 am)panpan Wrote: The original published text was extensively checked and evaluated by many major language models!
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 8:41 am
(September 21, 2025 at 1:52 am)Astreja Wrote: (September 21, 2025 at 1:36 am)panpan Wrote: The original published text was extensively checked and evaluated by many major language models!
That isn't necessarily a good thing. LLMs are frequently wrong.
Please answer this question, in one paragraph or less: Where did this alleged creative "Intelligence" come from? According to the second Absolute Law of Logic, “Only Intelligence can create Intelligence.” Which means that Life is created by something intelligent. To answer your question, I will speculate based on the law of physics, the First Law of Thermodynamics: “Energy is neither created nor destroyed. It is simply converted from one form to another.” Therefore, creative “Intelligence” existed, exists, and will exist!
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 8:52 am
(September 21, 2025 at 5:57 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: panpan Wrote:Ethics is not subjective, nor is it merely a social construct. It is the logically inevitable necessity that arises from acquired consciousness.
If ethics is not subjective then why do different societies have different ethics and why does ethics change over time? For example, in some societies gay marriage is immoral while in others it's moral? Or why was slavery in one society deemed as moral but then seen as immoral if ethics is objective?
Ethics is based on autonomy and non-harm of the autonomy of others. Even though every creature is forced to harm in order to survive, without wanting to harm itself, intelligent beings such as humans can limit this behavior based on morality, minimizing the harm they will cause to others and to the whole.
Your observation is not wrong because ethics is usually determined by the personal interests of individuals and groups.
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 8:52 am
Thoroughly incorrect. Natural selection, the "intelligence" you've attributed to creating intelligent life, certainly did not always exist, and is not made of energy.
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 9:16 am
Circular Logic is a logic that appears logical but if you analyze it has logical problems. The First Absolute Law of Logic:
"Intelligence is the ability to perceive information, organize information into knowledge, and, with knowledge, act", which defines the basis of intelligence and its mechanism has mathematical logic. In addition to defining what intelligence is, it gives you the ability to check if something has intelligence and what kind of intelligence. Intelligence is Perception > Knowledge > Action, if one element of these is missing it is not intelligence, but it can manifest intelligence. Example: The simple thermometer seems to perceive temperature and acts by showing the temperature. It has no knowledge of this process, nor does it perceive it itself, but it shows that something intelligent made it and that is how it is. The bacterium, which is a simple form of life and perceives and knows what it does and acts for it and survives, verifies the law.
Therefore, the law as written in the original text defines what intelligence is and does not make a qualitative distinction, but it gives man the opportunity to explore the property of every being or thing if it has intelligence and what kind of basis of this law!
It also validates itself because it proves every moment we speak that we are intelligent beings, because We perceive what someone tells us, we understand by knowing what they tell us, and we act, by answering or writing.
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 9:17 am
(September 21, 2025 at 8:52 am)panpan Wrote: Ethics is based on autonomy and non-harm of the autonomy of others. Even though every creature is forced to harm in order to survive, without wanting to harm itself, intelligent beings such as humans can limit this behavior based on morality, minimizing the harm they will cause to others and to the whole.
This puerile philosophizing doesn't explain how ethics is supposedly objective.
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RE: To the question of does God exist, the answer is whether Intelligence created Life
September 21, 2025 at 9:23 am
(September 21, 2025 at 8:52 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Thoroughly incorrect. Natural selection, the "intelligence" you've attributed to creating intelligent life, certainly did not always exist, and is not made of energy.
Everything is made of energy, matter is a concentrate of energy! Light, every type of radiation, is energy at a different frequency.
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