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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 2:52 am
(May 10, 2011 at 2:33 am)Shell B Wrote: (May 10, 2011 at 1:30 am)ruhollah Wrote: Look I'm not going to sit here and defend the Arab nations as a better culture.
Wait, wasn't that your original position? Why the fuck have we been carrying on if you agree with me?
I've been loosely following this conversation and yeah, I think that was EXACTLY where he started his original position.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am
(May 10, 2011 at 2:33 am)Shell B Wrote: That was not during the American Revolution. I suggest you read more. Furthermore, Moroccans were also the first to attack U.S. merchant ships. I'm pretty sure they were not protecting U.S. ships so much as abiding by a treaty. I could be wrong, though. I have not researched the Barbary Wars to any great degree. I can assure you, though, this did not happen during the American Revolution. France protected colonial merchants at that time.
Just wiki Morocco it has all the info there.
Quote:That is really a partial truth. Did you know that the Vietnamese were slaves for at least decades, possibly centuries (You google it for me. ), before we showed up? There was a reason to fight, people just always choose the wrong one.
As far as this religion is concerned, the ends do not justify the means. There are better ways to put an end to slavery.
Quote:Christianity. You know Jews and Christians hated each other for a very long time. What makes you think atheists, as a group (there really is no group, just hypothetically), encourage ethnic cleansing? You have been conversing with me for hours. Do I give you the impression that I would encourage such a thing?
Look up the eugenics movement going on in all the secular nations.
Quote:What the fuck are you talking about?
I'll make a new thread on this topic. Paper money and intentional inflation is against this religion.
Quote:I don't know much about Iran, but there has never been a country that fully respected human rights, whatever those are.
The nation that invented human rights has always respected and valued it.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am
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(May 10, 2011 at 2:52 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote: I've been loosely following this conversation and yeah, I think that was EXACTLY where he started his original position.

I thought so. Go figure. I will never get that time back. I'm going to cyber-sue.
(May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am)ruhollah Wrote: Just wiki Morocco it has all the info there.
Okay, but it still wasn't during the American Revolution and Moroccans were still simply abiding by a treaty after having attacked many merchant ships themselves.
(May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am)ruhollah Wrote: As far as this religion is concerned, the ends do not justify the means. There are better ways to put an end to slavery.
We were talking about civilization, not religion. Regardless, Middle Eastern countries have never, to my knowledge, assisted the U.S. in a war that wasn't a Middle Eastern war.
(May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am)ruhollah Wrote: Quote:Christianity. You know Jews and Christians hated each other for a very long time. What makes you think atheists, as a group (there really is no group, just hypothetically), encourage ethnic cleansing? You have been conversing with me for hours. Do I give you the impression that I would encourage such a thing?
Look up the eugenics movement going on in all the secular nations.
Please stop telling me to google things and actually respond to what I am typing here. If you try to tell me another African country where there is genocide is secular, I'm going to give up.
(May 10, 2011 at 2:56 am)ruhollah Wrote: The nation that invented human rights has always respected and valued it.
I see. You or your relatives are from Iran. I understand patriotism, dude. However, I am not going to run around telling people that Americans invented free will or some other innate thing.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 3:18 am
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 3:21 am
I know what eugenics is. Thank you, though. Well, when you refer to Iranians as Persians, it doesn't help your claim of peacefulness. Anyway, I have to run. I have been on here way too long. Have a good night.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 11:20 am
I'm starting to think that "Iran" is all right....it is Iranians who are fucked up beyond belief!
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 12:24 pm
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(May 10, 2011 at 1:46 am)ruhollah Wrote: Are you suggesting that Hitler was a christian? You do know Jesus was a JEW.
If this isn't enough evidence, then read what he actually wrote. He thought that his persecution of Jews was God's work. And a lot of antisemitism among Christians is driven by the idea that the Jews had Jesus killed.
(May 10, 2011 at 11:20 am)Minimalist Wrote: I'm starting to think that "Iran" is all right....it is Iranians who are fucked up beyond belief!
The problem with Iran is that it's the millions of bad apples who spoil it for the other eleven.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 12:27 pm
I know a few Iranian people around my age, they seem to think their youth have hope. They're actually rather enlightened as a society compared to the reputation they get, just oppressed by religious and political sociopaths.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 10, 2011 at 12:40 pm
It's up to them to deal with that situation, though. No one can do it for them.
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RE: Iran is a weird fucking place...
May 28, 2011 at 10:21 am
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