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Why the Bible is true
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Why the Bible is true
Ravi Zacharias clears it up for us: http://www.godtube.com/watch/?v=DZ6ZYPNX

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RE: Why the Bible is true
Verbose shithead, isn't he?
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#3
RE: Why the Bible is true
A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed.

And what about all of Jesus' failed prophecies of the end of the world and returning in his listeners' lifetimes? What about the fact that the messiah was supposed to be a military leader with an earthly kingdom, which Jesus never was? What about "he shall be called Immanuel" which Jesus never was in the New Testament?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
(May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed.

And what about all of Jesus' failed prophecies of the end of the world and returning in his listeners' lifetimes? What about the fact that the messiah was supposed to be a military leader with an earthly kingdom, which Jesus never was? What about "he shall be called Immanuel" which Jesus never was in the New Testament?

Prove your statements.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
Quote:And what about all of Jesus' failed prophecies of the end of the world and returning in his listeners' lifetimes?


We're still here. How much more proof do you need?

Your boy not only isn't coming back....he wasn't here in the first place.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
Ohh - that's why.

thanks, that makes it all make sense now.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
(May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prove your statements.

Matthew 24, for starters. Jesus talks about all the bad things that will befall the earth at the end of the world, sun & moon darkened, etc, then says "This generation shall not pass from the earth until all these things come to pass." There are many other places in the gospels where he tells people that they shall not die until he returns.
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Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Jesus is not called Immanuel (or Emmanuel) anywhere in the New Testament. If he is, then please provide book, chapter, and verse.
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Michah 5:6, talking about a new leader of Israel, a.k.a., the messiah: And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

As far as I know, Jesus never led an army, nor did he defeat the Assyrians.

Zechariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
9:10 And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the horse from Jerusalem, and the battle bow shall be cut off: and he shall speak peace unto the heathen: and his dominion shall be from sea even to sea, and from the river even to the ends of the earth.

The gospels (especially Mt.21:4-5 and Jn.12:14-15) claim that Jesus fulfils the prophecy of Zech.9:9, but this is a military king with an earthly kingdom. Jesus was never a military leader, and he always said his kingdom was not of the earth.

Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
(May 11, 2011 at 12:24 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(May 11, 2011 at 12:18 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: A bunch of lame claims of prophecy and biblical accuracy. "They shall look upon him whom they have pierced" does not necessarily describe a crucifixion. Sounds more like someone being stabbed.

And what about all of Jesus' failed prophecies of the end of the world and returning in his listeners' lifetimes? What about the fact that the messiah was supposed to be a military leader with an earthly kingdom, which Jesus never was? What about "he shall be called Immanuel" which Jesus never was in the New Testament?

Prove your statements.

Do you really think everyone is obliged to start from zero just because you have the attention span of a Zabriskan Fontema?
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RE: Why the Bible is true
Exactly. My first thought was "fuck off," partly because I was in a bad mood at the time, but then I thought I'd play along and see what kind of lame arguments he'd come up with. But I don't feel obliged to provide evidence of every claim I make. Christians never do, so why should I?
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Why the Bible is true
(May 11, 2011 at 3:30 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Exactly. My first thought was "fuck off," partly because I was in a bad mood at the time, but then I thought I'd play along and see what kind of lame arguments he'd come up with. But I don't feel obliged to provide evidence of every claim I make. Christians never do, so why should I?

Because you're better than that.
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