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Violet · (This post was last modified: June 8, 2011 at 5:16 pm by Violet.)

(June 8, 2011 at 12:25 pm)Zenith Wrote: The fact is that I want to talk about all sexual orientation, and want to hear some opinions

Even mine? Heart

Quote:So,
1. What do you think about incest?
Should we consider it "good", "normal", etc.? How do you regard (i.e. what do you feel about that person, what attitudes you have towards him/her):
a) a man who slept with his sister?
b) a woman who slept with her brother?

How would you feel if you saw them doing those things and you knew that they are brother and sister? (see live/porn - TV, computer) Should our society consider it "ok"? Why? Would you feel ok if these persons you have seen are part of your family? (mother, father, brother, sister, son, daughter, etc.)

Incest of others is sexy. Especially if they are twin brothers.

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Man plus his sister is fine... woman plus brother the same... but where it gets really hot is mother+daughter.

Absolutely our society should consider it okay. Why not? I feel totally fine with having family members in an inscestual relationship (so long as its not with me... only because my family is the last thing I'd call sexy and not one of them is to my taste at all).

I also consider it quite normal.

(June 8, 2011 at 4:33 pm)Zenith Wrote: most of you, it seems, that did not tell how they'd feel if those persons would be part of the family.
For instance, you can say "well, if he really loves his dog... I don't care, it's not me!!" but it's very different when it's your mother or your daughter or your sister we're talking about!

It's only different for some people. I don't give a damn myself Heart

Girlysprite · June 9, 2011 at 9:01 am

BWAHAHAHA @ twincest picture!

Let me expand my answers with 'what if it was family'

Incest: I have made clear that if siblings have grown up with each other and start a relation, I would think something was wrong. I would think the same if my em...brother and brother would do that. However, I have a huge family on my mothers side. I can imagine a nephew and niece who have never met before meeting each other during a gigantic family feast and have this spark jump. I would not mind. I would just tell them to be careful.
Also, as for the babies thing, which was commented upon: that was the reason why I said that if a pregnancy occurs, there should be checkups. Lots of. I would not encourage such people to make children though, and advice them not to do it.

Sex with animals i would not approve of, as stated before. So I would be angry if a family member was caught doing it. I would ask though why he/she felt this need to turn to an animal (maybe there are deeper issues?), but clearly state my disapproval of this animal abuse.

sex with dead people: do not approve, as stated before.

Minor sex: I'd go to the police, though some leeway may be given depending on the ages of the persons involved (16 & 15 years old...yeah, I dont bother)

Male homosexuality: My father is one. Yeah, long story. We have a great relationship though, as do my siblings.

Female homosexuality: I have 2 aunts being lesbians. Great people!

Prostitution: When I'd find a family member being a prostitute, my reaction would differ based on how well I know this person. If it is someone I know well, and a person who is more on the shy side, I would inquire carefully if she really is in it of her own free will. I would be open and supportive. If bad things are in play, he/she might need all the available support. If the person is confident and seems to be confident in this choice to, I'd just shrug. Their choice, and it's up to them if they want to share the juicy stories or not! :p btw, I'm from a country where it is legal.

SleepingDemon · June 9, 2011 at 9:48 am

Incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality are all no. The dead, animals, and children cannot consent. Incest is both dangerous to our species on a genetic level, and often a pedophillac relationship. Between brother and sister, mother and son etc are normally done due to psychological issues, and are unhealthy as such. Homosexuality and lesbianism, mmmm lesbians, as long as it is two consenting adults, I don't care. Prostitution should be legal, it is the world's oldest profession, and making things like this illegal turn it over to criminals, which makes it dangerous. Nevada has safe environments like the Bunny Ranch which demonstrate legal prostitution at it's finest...hehe

Zenith · (This post was last modified: June 9, 2011 at 11:41 am by Zenith.)

ok, now I'll say my own opinions about those subjects...

1. Incest
Totally disagree. However, I do not consider having sex with your cousin as "incest". But if it's about brother and sister, or father and daughter, or other similar combination, I do consider it "incest" and it is "yuuuuckk!!!"... or striking, the same as if you see an 8 years olf child sucking the dick of a 50 years old man (it's simply striking, you can't feel good seeing that). About the society: I'm not sure if there should be a law regarding it, but it should really not encourage it or preach everywhere that "it's ok", "do whatever you want" and stuff like that - because if the society says that, then it will help the number of people who practice incest to grow.

2. sex with animals
I would say "abomination", but that word usually makes me imagine something like this:

So I rather prefer saying "DISGUSTING!!!"
I've once seen a porn video on I don't know what porn site, and was watching how a big dog was fucking a woman (she was standing on her knees with her arms on the floor two). It was VERY disgusting (it turned my stomach upside down - perhaps this is a forced translation in english, but you understand), and I would never touch a woman who did that in my life. I'd look bad even to the dog (I mean... how do you see a dog that did that??). I think a man fucking a goat is less disgusting, but I don't know how a woman would have sex with such a man afterwards...

If there was a law that punished by prison people that did that, I wouldn't fight against that law. I don't know if I'd fight for such a law, the fact is that such things do happen anyway, and the most important thing is perhaps not to encourage it or for the society to talk as if "it's ok", "it's absolutely normal", etc.

3. sex with dead people (and perhaps, also with animals)
If it's about people, as long as they are not rotten, I guess it's pretty ok. though perhaps ridiculous and others can have a good time laughing of such a person. otherwise, yuuuckk!! (especially if they are animals)

4. minor sex (e.g. 8 years old)
I totally disagree with minor sex, ESPECIALLY an adult having sex with a minor (the laws are currently pretty crappy, as it seems, because they make illegal the sex between an 18 years old guy and a 17 years old girl), but the fact is that an 8 years old boy should never have sex with an adult!
I believe the society must punish (usually, it does) such a thing.
As about sex between minors, that's also a bad thing. I'm not sure about the psychological effects, but I seriously don't believe it's normal or natural to do that at that age.

5. male homosexuality
I've once watched a porn video, at the thumbnail (or, how it's called, that small image that you get an idea what is about) I thought it's a woman sucking the dick while being fucked (that person was standing on knees and was also sustained by the hands). I started to watch the video, and I realized it was a man sucking the dick while being fucked in the ass. It turned by stomach upside down.

I don't know too much information about homosexuality (and here, by homosexuality I mean - as I talk about male men - to be attracted only by men, and therefore not to be attracted by a hot lady or have orgasm if you have sex with her - if a guy has sex with both male and female, he's not a homosexual, but a bisexual, and I can't understand that as "created so by the nature" or something).

There is a thing I don't understand about homosexuality however... that is, we're all capable of having sex with another male (think like this: if you do it, you'll receive $1000000, would you do it?), and perhaps most of us have at least once in their life felt attracted to another [male] man. Also, the first time I fell in 'love' with someone, it was a boy (well, I was 8 years old, and back then I didn't know about sex or even about kissing - but the fact was and it still is that the society where I live in do not regard such thing at all as something normal, so I also understood it as abnormal.). Anyway, the fact is that after some time I also started to like (or, love, whatever it was) a girl. The other interesting thing is that if you spend enough time (perhaps something like one or two years) only among men, and not women at all, you start to feel attracted to another male (or other males). The same happens in jail: male men stay together for years, with no women, and therefore they start to fuck each other. And if all women would suddenly disappear forever from the planet, 99%+ of men would turn homosexual. So I don't understand why or how the "homosexuals" (I talk about those males who never feel attracted by women) are more special than us. Is there a gay gene or something? I don't know, if a gay male says "I can't stop having sex with men" then 99% of the world population - that has started their sexual life - can't cease having sex as long as he/she lives, so I don't see a big difference.

female homosexuality
Female homosexuality... as long as the women are hot & young, it's ok. If there are two fat old ladies, yuuuuckk!!
Perhaps it's because I do get hot if I see two hot young ladies naked, so whatever they do, it's ok!!
(and yeah, I'm a male, if there is anybody who did not figure this out by now)

By the way, I've once seen a broadcast on TV, where a lesbian insisted how good and normal lesbianism is. The striking thing was that she brought as justifications the fact that "no man can understand me as a woman does" and that "as a woman, she knows where and how to produce me best sexual pleasure". I mean, if there are people that are homosexual (now, both men and women) because of these reasons, I think they should rather visit a psychologist or something!

7. prostitution and paid sex
I don't agree with paid sex. There are women who prostitute in order to have food for their children, but I'm not talking about this situation (and many women also ask for food instead of money, because the laws in the state currently forbid being paid, i.e. paid with money, for the sexual services).

I think that if paid sex was eliminated, then a lot of pimps would also disappear (and I also heard that women & lads that are kidnapped and forced for prostitution are used for things such as clubs, though I don't remember 100% correctly all the info). Also the money that we use to enrich so many porn stars could be used to help children that are starving, children in africa and in poor countries, etc.

Chido-Wan Kenobi · June 9, 2011 at 12:09 pm

(June 8, 2011 at 3:30 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: 1). Unnatural as we know it leads to genetic mutation.

2). As long as you're in Mexico it is okay.

3). Sex should be between two live adults as a dead body can't consent. I guess if you got permission before hand you could do what you wanted.

4). Minors are not old enough to understand the consequences of their actions and are off limits.

5). I could care less.

6). It is awesome.

7). Why pay for something you could get for free with a little work?

Yeah, well, take your #2 opinion, roll it up tightly and insert it into your rectal tract, FaithNoMore. And, by the way, "I could care less" (#5) actually means the opposite of what you think it does.

**Rev. Rye** · June 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm

1. Very problematic, especially if the sister gets pregnant, as the kid would likely have genetic abnormalities.
2. Gross. I am well aware that my objections to this are merely visceral, and I cannot find a moral alternative.
3. My own personal perspective: I don't think there's anything wrong with this that I wouldn't consider wrong to do with a sex doll. Besides, anybody deranged enough to do that is deranged enough for me to want to write about him.
4. Sex with children is likely to lead to irreparable psychological damage to the child.
5. None of my goddam business.
6. Awesome.
7. Why is it illegal? If some people can't get laid normally, why not let them pay for a sure thing?

**Autumnlicious** · June 9, 2011 at 2:03 pm

(June 9, 2011 at 9:48 am)SleepingDemon Wrote: Incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, and beastiality are all no. The dead, animals, and children cannot consent.

Necrophilia cannot be a 'no' due to the fact that consent only applies to a living entity. Also, sex only applies to a living entity, so necrophilia is akin to whacking a piece of steak or other inanimate object.

And in the case of the living, consent is indeed the crux of the matter.

I don't see why incest should be necessarily illegal -- what gives you the right to prevent two people who love each other from loving? Really? Ask yourself what fucking right do you have?

Incest is just sexual intercourse between related individuals -- if they breed, then we have a problem. But as long as they don't breed, there is no harm.

And last I checked, Law looks at harm as a critical factor.

Zenith · (This post was last modified: June 9, 2011 at 2:11 pm by Zenith.)

(June 9, 2011 at 2:03 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Necrophilia cannot be a 'no' due to the fact that consent only applies to a living entity. Also, sex only applies to a living entity, so necrophilia is akin to whacking a piece of steak or other inanimate object.

Anyway, I guess for everyone applies this issue: if you know that tomorrow you'll die and the day after tomorrow 10 men will fuck you in the ass, you don't like the idea!

(June 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: 4. Sex with children is likely to lead to irreparable psychological damage to the child.

There are people that start their sexual life at 10 (some even earlier, I think).
So if a boy starts his sexual life at 10 years (with a boy or girl of his age) and at 11 he has sex with a mature man (and both agree), is there really a difference?

**Faith No More** · June 9, 2011 at 2:11 pm

(June 9, 2011 at 12:09 pm)Chido-Wan Kenobi Wrote: Yeah, well, take your #2 opinion, roll it up tightly and insert it into your rectal tract, FaithNoMore. And, by the way, "I could care less" (#5) actually means the opposite of what you think it does.

Actually, my answers were not meant to be taken seriously. I was actually trying to have a bit of fun with the subject but it seems you take this way too seriously. I'm sorry if you didn't enjoy my joking responses, but there's no need to mention my rectal tract, unless of course you are a doctor of proctology.

Methinks thou needs to get a sense of humor and stop taking what you read on the internet so literally.

**Rev. Rye** · June 9, 2011 at 2:37 pm

(June 9, 2011 at 2:07 pm)Zenith Wrote:
(June 9, 2011 at 1:09 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: 4. Sex with children is likely to lead to irreparable psychological damage to the child.

There are people that start their sexual life at 10 (some even earlier, I think).
So if a boy starts his sexual life at 10 years (with a boy or girl of his age) and at 11 he has sex with a mature man (and both agree), is there really a difference?

Good question. I wrote my answer with the understanding that the child would be pre-sexual.

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