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Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
#51
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 6:55 am)Darwinian Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 6:51 am)Andrastos Wrote: To contact Him, all we need do is have a soul longing for His Love, and, if that longing is sincere and we have a desire to experience emotions, then our Father’s Love will flow into us.

This is the problem though isn't it? How can we sincerely have a soul longing for his love if we don't believe he exists in the first place? At best we would have to pretend and by your standards that simply wouldn't work.

Yes this is a massive problem, was for me too!
But God did design every Soul with a spark for that desire that one can grow!
It is that spark that all man have that created religion in the first place, "seek out God!"
Our belief systems are in our Soul, they enter us with an emotion attached to it, once in the Soul it is very hard to unravel them!
Common beliefs of God are tied up with all the irrational beliefs we faced with growing up! There is a lot of anger, fear, and mistrust and resentment associated with it!
For example, myself I hated God, and I did not really believe in him because of the Christian faith, also my father was brought up in boarding school and he was very poorly treated by the nuns, so I adopted his emotions from a child! He hates the thought of God!
I had to release a lot of anger by expressing it, and it was deep!
Took me nearly 2 months to get passed that, anger came up I never felt before! Been in my Soul all my life! Had to experience it all, without projecting it to others!
But now I can talk about God without a problem! Actually I feel proud to talk of her! And that is very new for me, Hance being here now!
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#52
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 6:51 am)Andrastos Wrote: LOL I don't support "the Secret!"
It doesnt really work that well! But it is the start to understanding something about the Law of Attraction!

What evidence is there to support the existence of such a law?
Galileo was a man of science oppressed by the irrational and superstitious. Today, he is used by the irrational and superstitious who claim they are being oppressed by science - Mark Crislip
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#53
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 7:40 am)lilphil1989 Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 6:51 am)Andrastos Wrote: LOL I don't support "the Secret!"
It doesnt really work that well! But it is the start to understanding something about the Law of Attraction!

What evidence is there to support the existence of such a law?

If he starts sending you PMs, you'll regret asking that.
Trying to update my sig ...
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#54
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
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#55
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#56
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
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#57
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 10:17 am)Andrastos Wrote: Anything that has a central nervous system, also has a spirit body!
Ever had a pet that died that you REALLY loved and still Love? well if so, it will be waiting for you too after you pass!

Prove it. Tongue
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#58
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 6:56 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 6:25 am)Andrastos Wrote: You can see the effects of the wind, but you can't see the wind!
You can see the effects of gravity but you can't see it!
Yet these to facts exist and we never question it, generally, it just is!

Same as the Soul, you’re feeling the effects of it but you can't see it, yet! 24/7

I think you can only demonstrate it to yourself, other than what is already obvious!

When I see weakness, I pounce! Devil

Quote:You can see the effects of the wind, but you can't see the wind!
Wrong, we can see the wind. We can detect air molecules. We can observe, measure, repeat and verify it.
That's 1 for Ace 0 for Andy.
Quote:You can see the effects of gravity but you can't see it!
Gravity can be measured and verified. Thanks to our ever growing understanding of mass.
That's 2 for Ace 0 for Andy.

Quote:Yet these to facts exist and we never question it, generally, it just is!
They are not questioned because they have already been verified and confirmed. Unlike your god and soul beliefs.
3 for Ace now. Tongue
Quote:Same as the Soul, you’re feeling the effects of it but you can't see it, yet! 24/7
No, I'm feeling the effects of chemical reactions going off in my brain. This can be observed, measured, repeated and verified.
That's 4 now.

Quote:I think you can only demonstrate it to yourself, other than what is already obvious!
Demonstration in your words, but what you're saying is just assume it has something to do with a soul....
Do you have another method to demonstrate the existence of souls? Other than out right baseless assumptions?

Want a cup'o tea old chap? Big Grin

I was going to mention that we do have instruments to measure them! For this reason! Worship
If you want to believe you a souless person you can do so, it's your choice!
I will have a cup of tea actually!
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#59
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 10:57 am)Andrastos Wrote: I was going to mention that we do have instruments to measure them! For this reason! Worship
If you want to believe you a souless person you can do so, it's your choice!
I will have a cup of tea actually!

So, prayer is your method of measurement? Good luck with that.
Also it's not that I don't want to believe in souls. I am in the sole interest for what is real. There is no evidence for the existence 'souls'. There for I have rejected such beliefs.

From my point of view with science in mind. There is no such thing as a god, soul or afterlife. Unless you can prove that there are such beings and places?
Always remember, you could be wrong.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#60
RE: Absolute Truth revealed! Finally! Who is God?
(June 10, 2011 at 11:11 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
(June 10, 2011 at 10:57 am)Andrastos Wrote: I was going to mention that we do have instruments to measure them! For this reason! Worship
If you want to believe you a souless person you can do so, it's your choice!
I will have a cup of tea actually!

So, prayer is your method of measurement?

My method of measurement in the Joy, happiness, Love, contentedness I feel growing ever stronger!
Let me give you an example what a prayer really is: if you’re walking down the street and you see an old lady struggling, and you feel compassion for her, even if you can't help. This is what prayer really is, it's an emotion you project of love and compassion for anyone anywhere!

Something else for you to ponder: Every time you sleep, your spirit body separates from your material body and enters the spirit world! You have two types of experiences in your sleep, one is dreams and one is actually sleep state experiences! Ever had a "dream" that felt was really real, good chance it was!
Dreams are designed to help you realize what emotions you are denying! And so need to deal with! Ever had a bad dream, well that emotion you feel about it wants to come out of you, a lot of people try to intellectualize dreams, no need, just feel them!
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