The problem with muslims...

[Epimethean]

Well, yeah, it's always been a shithole, but now it's not a cool shithole.

Dead right about the Ripper. First couple of times I was there was for the tours, which are pretty fun at night. But now, you wouldn't die just because you're a prostitute: You'd die because you're not Muslim.

Some great pubs there, still, and I do love S&M (the restaurant, though the other kind is fun, too).

[Napoléon]

..how about the fact that the vast majority of Muslims who have moved from Arabic countries to Western countries flat out refuse to change.

Well doesn't that just go towards the fact that they are so divisive by nature? Muslims are the only group of people in the UK who are genuinely like this. I mean take sikhs for example. They are cool people, every sikh person I've ever met is down to earth and would seem like any other guy you could hope to meet in the UK. They don't live within their own communities, they live within OUR communities. They don't cut themselves off, or act any different to anyone else, they INTEGRATE with society. Muslims simply don't do this. I don't particularly have any problems with that but when it makes entire areas no go zones for white people, you feel like a foreigner in your own country at times. The only thing stopping them from being truly being part of this country is themselves. Frankly they deserve the reputation they have.

[Epimethean]

That is a bad scene. It is in some ways like that here in Arizona with Mexican areas being completely Mexican and utterly unsafe for any other race.

[reverendjeremiah]

The only thing stopping them from being truly being part of this country is themselves. Frankly they deserve the reputation they have.

Agreed..in fact I too have said this many times before. If the vast majority of Muslims insists on acting like assholes, then they deserve the world wide reputation that they have.

If you are a muslim and do not like this..then you best fight YOUR OWN PEOPLE (not us non-muslims) to change THEIR assholiness. Dont make excuses for them, as you will only slop more concrete on the poor image of Islam (rayaan, you do this all the time) by once again showing that the "moderate" Islamists do nothing but cringe in fear from their own Islamists and make excuses that blame non-islamists instead of the terrorists themselves (like Rayaan saying OBL didnt mastermind 9/11)

Also, if all else fails, and you dont like the reputation Islam has with the world, then you need to SERIOUSLY consider leaving Islam. I became disgusted by the world wide reputation of Christianity and I left it.. but that wasnt the only reason.

In a nut shell..if you dont want to be lumped together with these lunatics, then dont be a part of their "club".

[Minimalist]

That is a bad scene. It is in some ways like that here in Arizona with Mexican areas being completely Mexican and utterly unsafe for any other race.

? Another Arizonan? No shit. Going to be hot this week.

[Epimethean]

Hell yes, and that ain't no joke. I've been sweating my balls off overhauling the top end of an old Grand Marquis a few days a week. Once it gets like this, it stays on "high" for two solid months. I miss real monsoons, too. Used to have those in Tucson. They hardly bother with Phoenix, and the change in weather patterns seems to be part of a bigger picture.

[Napoléon]

If you are a muslim and do not like this..then you best fight YOUR OWN PEOPLE (not us non-muslims) to change THEIR assholiness. Dont make excuses for them, as you will only slop more concrete on the poor image of Islam

Couldn't be more true mate. Muslims will always defend each other even when they commit heinous crimes, but the second someone pulls them up about it, it's "OH NO YOU CAN'T INSULT OUR RELIGION WE ARE A RELIGION OF PEACE! YOU BEING RACIST!"

A video I found on youtube ages ago highlights this point superbly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rBG-pIui...ideo_title

Where's the muslim outrage?

[Epimethean]

That is great. I hate monotheism more than any other kind of theism, and Islam sucks the hardest right now.

[Minimalist]

Hell yes, and that ain't no joke. I've been sweating my balls off overhauling the top end of an old Grand Marquis a few days a week. Once it gets like this, it stays on "high" for two solid months. I miss real monsoons, too. Used to have those in Tucson. They hardly bother with Phoenix, and the change in weather patterns seems to be part of a bigger picture.

I'm a bit NW of Phoenix and if we're lucky we get one or two thunderstorms during the monsoon.....which is fine with my dog. The East Valley gets hit harder over in Tempe and Mesa which is fine. They are younger and can handle it.

[Epimethean]

I'm actually out in San Tan Valley, so pretty far southeast. Makes getting down to see my relatives in Tucson easier.