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The Argument From Design
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Cop-out, none of you can explain it and Dawkins is a rambling nut job. Dawkins never explained the optic nerve nor the development of the part of the brain responsible for sight, nothing about how the image is inverted.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (August 3, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: Dawkins is a rambling nut job.Hey there Mr Pot. Let me introduce you to Mr Kettle, you can call him black. Quote:Dawkins never explained the optic nerve nor the development of the part of the brain responsible for sight, nothing about how the image is inverted. So fucking what? RE: The Argument From Design
August 3, 2011 at 3:35 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 3:45 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Here you go, but of course, PBS probably has a liberal bias, and an anti god agenda. Fucking moron. Seriously, what do you do when you're not here? Huff paint thinner?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/librar...11_01.html Go forth and educate thyself, confused one. Who would have thought btw, photoreactive cells within organisms that depends on light for their existence, no....couldn't be, far too simple. And as we all know; nothing is simple, everything is so complex that godmusthavedoneit. You just can't let go of genesis can you? Do you feel less special somehow when you contemplate the possibility that you are wrong? Frodo doesn't have this problem, he's probably a true christian.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: The Argument From Design
August 3, 2011 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 3:52 pm by fr0d0.)
RE: The Argument From Design
August 3, 2011 at 4:01 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 4:29 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That's only blame to those who claim evidence of design. There are no wizards in my worldview, especially the kind that are responsible for providing me with a suitable environment. It only becomes an issue of blame when one foolishly insists that their fantasies are in fact responsible for everything we see (except when they're not). Even then, it's only blame in the mind of the deluded. What champion have I picked? That you find apocalypse everywhere you look is a function of your own wiring. Doesn't belong in mine. In any case, I coud be dead wrong about everything, and it wouldn't make you right about anything. I'm not sure why you even went down this road, since you must know from many other threads that I don't believe that god deserves credit or blame for anything, since he doesn't exist. That's something that's probably pretty clear about my position, at this point.
Did you have something to say? Evidence? (edited to seperate you from the "materialist christians" you find so provincial)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Easy, frods. Unless you're god, you shouldn't take it personally.
 The fact of the matter is that there is no possible way to disprove Creation if Creationists find a reason or excuse for everything involving god, which they do. Should we prove the Big Bang Theory, goddidit. Should we say, "That looks like god wasn't very smart." someone will say, "God wanted has to have struggles." It is the argument that never ends. That being said, to the Creationists here, you will never convince anyone who doesn't believe in intelligent design with arguments like that. You have to admit that they are unconvincing. If I said, fairies want you to have to struggle, would you then believe that fairies do not intervene to help humans because they want us to learn for ourselves? If I said, Santa wants you to have faith, so he doesn't reveal himself in obvious ways, would you then believe in Santa? You can't really get pissy when a person comes from a position like that. You can't expect everyone to have that kind of blind faith. On the other hand, I can hardly get mad at a Creationist for making what appear to be excuses to us because not doing so would destroy the fabric of their beliefs. Either way, there is no end to the argument. RE: The Argument From Design
August 3, 2011 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2011 at 4:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Well put. On the other hand, reality does begin and end with facts. Hard evidence. We have it, they do not. Frodo is only speaking for god because god is unable to speak for himself, being confined to the immaterial, locked somehow in Frodo's mind.
Honestly, why is it that I can find meaning in the religious experience without requiring it to be factually accurate in any way, without the crutch of it's being some objective moral truth; whereas the believer seems unable to do the same?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 3, 2011 at 4:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well put. On the other hand, reality does begin and end with facts. Hard evidence. We have it, they do not. Frodo is only speaking for god because god is unable to speak for himself, being confined to the immaterial, locked somehow in Frodo's mind. Because your disbelief makes it unnecessary for it to be true. |
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