Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[KichigaiNeko]

For someone who is "chillaxed" you seem very uptight fr0d0

[Napoléon]

I can fully defend my faith logically, and have frequently done so. I can honestly say I've never met a logical atheist. Some come close, but none get there.

Sure - you can pose unanswerable questions that prove nothing... but at least you get to dismiss with baseless accusations of point dodging huh. That must make you feel so good.

I was trying to be nice to you fr0d0. What an anus.

[KichigaiNeko]

For a "quick poll" why is this thread not closed by now??

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, Obvious troll is obvious. Let the thread die.

[fr0d0]

And by the definition that you seem to be using for 'logical' in your insult, an atheist cannot meet the criteria because they would no longer be an atheist.

You take it as an insult... because you can't possibly see outside of your own indoctrination. We should attempt at least to see outside our own point of view, and not take a position simply because that's what everyone else thinks.

For someone who is "chillaxed" you seem very uptight fr0d0

That's your perception Kitchie. I'm quite chillaxed thankyou
Buster blood vessel El D on the other hand...

I was trying to be nice to you fr0d0. What an anus.

And you don't see the insults in your kind words there mon amie? I guess I should be grateful

[Faith No More]

You take it as an insult... because you can't possibly see outside of your own indoctrination. We should attempt at least to see outside our own point of view, and not take a position simply because that's what everyone else thinks.

No, I take it as an insult because you make stupid generalizations about people you know little about, just as you did here. I was never indoctrinated into being an atheist as you like to assume. No one ever taught me to be an atheist, I just didn't find Christianity credible whe I went to church. I then came to the conclusion that the human mind has too much emotion invested into the question of whether a god exists to be objective. Also, I am constantly looking outside my view to help better understand my own, and I've never taken a position just because someone else did. When you say stupid things like that, you lose your position as the rational and logical person you strive so hard to appear as.

Grow up and drop the ignorant generalizations. If you want to know my position on things just ask, but don't pretend to know a damn thing as to why I believe until you do.

[Ace Otana]

Indoctrination Fr0d0?
Well you're definitely ignorant about that. Because there was no indoctrination. I didn't know anything about atheism, never heard about it till I was 16 years old. It was only when I was 16 that I learnt what an atheist is and it was then that I knew what I was. I learnt about it all on my own via the internet. Religion was the first thing I heard and learnt about. It's just that I couldn't believe all the shit they were telling me. No one pressured me one way or the other. Not even my family.

So no frods, I had no indoctrination. I've already given my reasons for my lack of belief in an imaginary friend.

[Napoléon]

And you don't see the insults in your kind words there mon amie? I guess I should be grateful

Yeah you should you ungrateful git!

I wasn't being insulting I was being factual

[BethK]

Catechism book:

#3. Who is God? God is a spirit who does not have a body like man.



Don't know why I suddenly remembered that so vividly.

Now that I think back on it ---- what a strange fucking way to define God. ??????????????

I'm reminded of the humorous story on Snopes about little Billy Evans who was born without a body, and had to use a burlap bag of leaves for a body because they were too poor to get him a transplant body. http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/burlap.asp

Hmmmm. Maybe God is like Little Billy Evans. God too is seeking donations to help him. He has no body either (according to the catechism). His words say that everyone should be poor, and his ministers insist they are poor, and take vows of poverty although they are often living in luxury compared with their congregations and local communities.

I don't think God needs the money any more than Little Billy Evans. I don't think either of them are real, nor born without a body. Especially since one of them is said to be all powerful.

[fr0d0]

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No, I take it as an insult because you make stupid generalizations about people you know little about, just as you did here. I was never indoctrinated into being an atheist as you like to assume. No one ever taught me to be an atheist, I just didn't find Christianity credible whe I went to church. I then came to the conclusion that the human mind has too much emotion invested into the question of whether a god exists to be objective. Also, I am constantly looking outside my view to help better understand my own, and I've never taken a position just because someone else did. When you say stupid things like that, you lose your position as the rational and logical person you strive so hard to appear as.

Grow up and drop the ignorant generalizations. If you want to know my position on things just ask, but don't pretend to know a damn thing as to why I believe until you do.

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You are quite correct of course... we should always judge the act and not the person.

To re-state: you were acting like you were indoctrinated. Better?

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So no frods, I had no indoctrination.

Well you seem to be acting like you are Ace. You regurgitate the dogma, rather than tackle the issue.