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[Tonus]

Just go yourself in the philosophy forum and indicate to me a single post that deal with philosophy.

You've made it clear that your definition of "philosophy" differs significantly from that of anyone else.  Much the same way your definition of "sentient" isn't found in any dictionary.  Why would I waste my time pointing to threads in the philosophy forum just so you could insist that they don't meet your bizarre definition of philosophy?  Besides, the last I checked, this isn't the "enrico's forum of crazy-talk" and you don't get to decide what does or doesn't qualify as philosophy or what does or doesn't belong in any specific forum.

[Little Rik]

Ya.
Somebody talking about free will, Ya.
What free will has got to do will philosophy only Santa knows. 

I responded to you, now scratch my back.  What does 'philosophy' mean to you?

Searching for wisdom not by creating theories and mental masturbations but by working in a practical way to achieve it.
Theories get you less than 1% of wisdom while the practice get you all. 

[Little Rik]

Just go yourself in the philosophy forum and indicate to me a single post that deal with philosophy.

You've made it clear that your definition of "philosophy" differs significantly from that of anyone else.  Much the same way your definition of "sentient" isn't found in any dictionary.  Why would I waste my time pointing to threads in the philosophy forum just so you could insist that they don't meet your bizarre definition of philosophy?  Besides, the last I checked, this isn't the "enrico's forum of crazy-talk" and you don't get to decide what does or doesn't qualify as philosophy or what does or doesn't belong in any specific forum.

It is so sooooo simple but you make it so sooooooo difficult.
Just go in your search engine and click sattvik sentient ........and you will see hundreds of sites in which sattvik and sentient go hand in hand.
Sentient come from Latin while sattvik come from the old sanskrit language but both of them mean the same thing.
Sentient is what is good for you therefore creating progress.
It can be food, people that are good and therefore help you in your progress, way of practicing something that also help you in your progress.
A lot of English language come from Latin, a lot of Latin come from Greek, a lot of Greek come from other languages like Persian and Sanskrit
so if you are really serious about the meaning of words you should go back and back until you find the origin of the words but i doubt that you will do 
that. All you do is believe outright what is written in dictionaries written thousand of years after the words first originate.
You got something in common with religious people that believe outright what is written in books written and rewritten hundred of time from the time in which
the real events occurred.
No wonder you go around with the blinkers on your eyes.
Philosophy follow the same sad story.
Philosophy means love for wisdom therefore a philosopher is someone who search the wisdom.
How do you search such a wisdom?
By creating theories after theories or engaging in some practical way to emerge the knowledge and the wisdom from your superconscious mind?
I am afraid however that you too Ton will follow the bad example of so many people that try to get more knowledge just by reading theories
from other theoretic dreamer. 


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[Angrboda]

Sentient come from Latin while sattvik come from the old sanskrit language but both of them mean the same thing.
Sentient is what is good for you therefore creating progress.
It can be food, people that are good and therefore help you in your progress, way of practicing something that also help you in your progress.
A lot of English language come from Latin, a lot of Latin come from Greek, a lot of Greek come from other languages like Persian and Sanskrit
so if you are really serious about the meaning of words you should go back and back until you find the origin of the words but i doubt that you will do 
that.

This is an example of the genetic fallacy and as such is an example of "wrong thought".  Words evolve and change through time.  Insisting that a word be equivalent to its meaning from a bygone time is an error.

By creating theories after theories or engaging in some practical way to emerge the knowledge and the wisdom from your superconscious mind?
I am afraid however that you too Ton will follow the bad example of so many people that try to get more knowledge just by reading theories
from other theoretic dreamer. 

So that's your theory as to how it works.  Funny how someone who is so against theory has spent so much of his time presenting theories about "how the system work" to us.  Do as I say, not as I do, eh?

[Little Rik]

Sentient come from Latin while sattvik come from the old sanskrit language but both of them mean the same thing.
Sentient is what is good for you therefore creating progress.
It can be food, people that are good and therefore help you in your progress, way of practicing something that also help you in your progress.
A lot of English language come from Latin, a lot of Latin come from Greek, a lot of Greek come from other languages like Persian and Sanskrit
so if you are really serious about the meaning of words you should go back and back until you find the origin of the words but i doubt that you will do 
that.

This is an example of the genetic fallacy and as such is an example of "wrong thought".  Words evolve and change through time.  Insisting that a word be equivalent to its meaning from a bygone time is an error.

Ah,ah,ah.
Just as i just said in my post to Ton.
Religious people changes so much the meaning that was given by the spiritual beings that the original meaning has been totally lost and now they are chasing dreams and dogmas.
Highly spiritual beings like Christ, Buddha, Shiva and khrisna just to named few never intended to create religions but those who follow slowly slowly turned the original meaning into something else.
You follow the same demented path into agree that the original meaning once changed make sense.
You should really organize a party with religious people and hug each other after all you got so many thing in common. 

By creating theories after theories or engaging in some practical way to emerge the knowledge and the wisdom from your superconscious mind?
I am afraid however that you too Ton will follow the bad example of so many people that try to get more knowledge just by reading theories
from other theoretic dreamer. 

So that's your theory as to how it works.  Funny how someone who is so against theory has spent so much of his time presenting theories about "how the system work" to us.  Do as I say, not as I do, eh?

You are talking to the wrong person yogini.
Theory in my life occupy less that 1% while practice occupy over 99%.
My thoughts are based on practical work not on theories like someone here
that believe outright theories from books and dictionaries. 

[Tonus]

It is so sooooo simple but you make it so sooooooo difficult.
Just go in your search engine and click sattvik sentient ........and you will see hundreds of sites in which sattvik and sentient go hand in hand.

What you're trying to say (good thing you provided that link) is that they use "sentient" in a different context, such as when a sugary snack is referred to as a "fatty" food. The word is being applied so badly that it's bound to create a misunderstanding. It makes you wonder if those folks really understand what "sentient" means. Eating plants or meat or paint chips won't make you sentient. It's a complete misnomer. On the other hand, eating enough paint chips might lead you to think that there are "sentient" foods.

Now that we've got that out of the way, let's start looking for all of these spiritual vegans who radiate or can see auras. I'm guessing that you'll need a whole lot of creative excuse-making to deal with all of the ones who neither radiate nor see auras (my guess- the vast majority of them) as well as the ones who claim to do so but cannot come up with any sort of consistent explanation, description, or approach.

[Angrboda]

Sentient come from Latin while sattvik come from the old sanskrit language but both of them mean the same thing.
Sentient is what is good for you therefore creating progress.
It can be food, people that are good and therefore help you in your progress, way of practicing something that also help you in your progress.
A lot of English language come from Latin, a lot of Latin come from Greek, a lot of Greek come from other languages like Persian and Sanskrit
so if you are really serious about the meaning of words you should go back and back until you find the origin of the words but i doubt that you will do
that.

This is an example of the genetic fallacy and as such is an example of "wrong thought".  Words evolve and change through time.  Insisting that a word be equivalent to its meaning from a bygone time is an error.

Ah,ah,ah.
Just as i just said in my post to Ton.
Religious people changes so much the meaning that was given by the spiritual beings that the original meaning has been totally lost and now they are chasing dreams and dogmas.
Highly spiritual beings like Christ, Buddha, Shiva and khrisna just to named few never intended to create religions but those who follow slowly slowly turned the original meaning into something else.
You follow the same demented path into agree that the original meaning once changed make sense.
You should really organize a party with religious people and hug each other after all you got so many thing in common. 

You really don't understand the genetic fallacy, do you?

That's okay, now you've switched to a new fallacy.  The appeal to tradition fallacy.
How do you know that it was originally good and is no longer good?

[Cyberman]

There are some who might say that Rikki is a genetic fallacy. Fortunately I am not one of those people and would never say that. Though I might think it.

[Little Rik]

There are some who might say that Rikki is a genetic fallacy. Fortunately I am not one of those people and would never say that. Though I might think it.

Stim, i really need your help.
I am in a big big trouble.
Please help.
You see Stim out there there are some billion of Hindus, Buddhists yogis and other people who are convinced that Sentient means what is good in helping you spiritually speaking.
Now all these billion of people just contact me and ask if i can do something so the word sentient keep his original meaning.
They know that we are sort of friend and they know that you can help to make sure that the word sentient just mean what i just mention above.
Can you help Stim?
Please Stim let us sort out this big problem before Christmas together with the other philosophy problem.
Thanks Stim.   

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Ah,ah,ah.
Just as i just said in my post to Ton.
Religious people changes so much the meaning that was given by the spiritual beings that the original meaning has been totally lost and now they are chasing dreams and dogmas.
Highly spiritual beings like Christ, Buddha, Shiva and khrisna just to named few never intended to create religions but those who follow slowly slowly turned the original meaning into something else.
You follow the same demented path into agree that the original meaning once changed make sense.
You should really organize a party with religious people and hug each other after all you got so many thing in common. 

You really don't understand the genetic fallacy, do you?
That's okay, now you've switched to a new fallacy.  The appeal to tradition fallacy.
How do you know that it was originally good and is no longer good?

Look at here yogini.


Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively.[1] Eighteenth-century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think (reason) from the ability to feel (sentience). In modern Western philosophy, sentience is the ability to experiencesensations (known in philosophy of mind as "qualia"). In Eastern philosophy, sentience is a metaphysical quality of all things that requires respect and care. The concept is central to the philosophy of animal rights, because sentience is necessary for the ability tosuffer, and thus is held to  certain rights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience

Is not good anymore?
This has really nothing to do whether the present version is good or bad but whether his original meaning has changed or not.
The original meaning (Sattvik) means what is good for your spiritual progress while the present meaning as you can see above tell of 
the ability to feel and it is also incorrect into saying that in the......Eastern philosophy, sentience is a metaphysical quality of all things that requires respect and care.......
What all this has got to do with the original meaning coming from Shiva and Krishna thousand of year ago only Santa knows. 

[Little Rik]

It is so sooooo simple but you make it so sooooooo difficult.
Just go in your search engine and click sattvik sentient ........and you will see hundreds of sites in which sattvik and sentient go hand in hand.

What you're trying to say (good thing you provided that link) is that they use "sentient" in a different context, such as when a sugary snack is referred to as a "fatty" food.  The word is being applied so badly that it's bound to create a misunderstanding.  It makes you wonder if those folks really understand what "sentient" means.  Eating plants or meat or paint chips won't make you sentient.  It's a complete misnomer.  On the other hand, eating enough paint chips might lead you to think that there are "sentient" foods.

Ton, you are running too much with your fantasy.
The link that i provided was to show you that the words Sattvik and Sentient go so often hand in hand in so many sites and in so many people minds
which boil down to the fact that so many people know that there is no differences among the two.
This is what i try to point out to you not what some of these link mean about the word sentient.

Now that we've got that out of the way, let's start looking for all of these spiritual vegans who radiate or can see auras.  I'm guessing that you'll need a whole lot of creative excuse-making to deal with all of the ones who neither radiate nor see auras (my guess- the vast majority of them) as well as the ones who claim to do so but cannot come up with any sort of consistent explanation, description, or approach.

Ton, for your own good you should try to slow down and think carefully before you express your thoughts.
I got people under my care that are over enthusiastic about the first thought coming into their mind.
This is a classical symptom of some psychic disease so please look after your health. 
Veganism is good in general (without garlic, onion and mushroom however) but to be able to see auras you need a lot more.
You need to be able to emerge some (the more the better) of your hidden consciousness.
Like you know that under the visible iceberg there is even a big chunk you suppose to know that under your outer mind
there is a huge chunk of knowledge so once you manage to emerge this knowledge you will be able to see things that
you normally wouldn't see.
This of course has nothing to do with be able to see what rats are doing inside holes or what is inside some magic boxes
or to know the correct Lotto number.
It is all related to spiritual things not mundane one. 
Capishhh?