Posts: 1985
Threads: 12
Joined: October 12, 2010
Reputation:
24
RE: Objective Morality?
October 5, 2011 at 9:33 pm
(October 4, 2011 at 7:40 pm)Rhythm Wrote: One of the gods, yes. And?
Equivocation.
(October 4, 2011 at 9:45 pm)padraic Wrote: Actually Stat,Judaism was not monotheistic until after Exodus. The latest achaeology shows a female deity was still being widely worshipped (by THOUSANDS) in Israel as as late as the seventh century bce.
Let’s stick to what scripture says, and not what archeology “says” considering it contradicts itself daily now it seems.
(October 4, 2011 at 11:44 pm)Pendragon Wrote: Are you talking about the Jewish God JHVH ? Yod, Heh, Vau, Heh(with points)
Thought you were a defender of JHSVH. An aspect of the Jewish God.
Sorry, English does not translate well into Hebrew.
This is for Statler, not Rhythm
We are talking about the God of scripture (New and Old Testament) which in English is called Yahweh.
Posts: 2966
Threads: 124
Joined: May 12, 2011
Reputation:
30
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 2:35 am
'Archaeology contradicts itself daily'
Where as the bible contradicts itself chapterly.
Let's face it archaeology is more reliable than the bible when it comes to fact.
Posts: 1985
Threads: 12
Joined: October 12, 2010
Reputation:
24
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 3:11 am
(October 6, 2011 at 2:35 am)5thHorseman Wrote: 'Archaeology contradicts itself daily'
Where as the bible contradicts itself chapterly.
Let's face it archaeology is more reliable than the bible when it comes to fact.
However, I have some atheists telling me that archeology proves the exodus never happened, and now I have you telling me that archeology proves that Jews were polytheists before the exodus. So which is it? Did the exodus happen or did it not happen?
Posts: 2966
Threads: 124
Joined: May 12, 2011
Reputation:
30
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 3:16 am
Apparently David Ben Gurion sent archaeologists out to find proof in the Sinai but they found nothing.
Google it, I'm no expert.
Posts: 1985
Threads: 12
Joined: October 12, 2010
Reputation:
24
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 3:28 am
(October 6, 2011 at 3:16 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Apparently David Ben Gurion sent archaeologists out to find proof in the Sinai but they found nothing.
Google it, I'm no expert.
Didn't you say that archeology proved that the Jews were polytheists before the exodus?
Posts: 2966
Threads: 124
Joined: May 12, 2011
Reputation:
30
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 3:34 am
No I did not. Wrong person.
Posts: 1985
Threads: 12
Joined: October 12, 2010
Reputation:
24
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 4:01 am
(October 6, 2011 at 3:34 am)5thHorseman Wrote: No I did not. Wrong person.
Oh yeah, my bad it was Pedraic. That's interesting though that you two disagree on the issue.
Posts: 22
Threads: 0
Joined: October 3, 2011
Reputation:
1
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 6:31 am
This is a good video about biblical & secular, objective & subjective morality, enjoy  .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqwAVimMO4w
Posts: 5336
Threads: 198
Joined: June 24, 2010
Reputation:
77
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 8:23 am
(October 6, 2011 at 3:28 am)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Didn't you say that archeology proved that the Jews were polytheists before the exodus?
I'm no expert either but I read that as "before Exodus was written". The events never happened but the book itself was real.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
Posts: 67293
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Objective Morality?
October 6, 2011 at 8:48 am
(This post was last modified: October 6, 2011 at 8:51 am by The Grand Nudger.)
No, exodus didn't happen. Yes, they were polytheistic at a point in time just like everyone else around them. Expecting history to align itself to a fairy tale is expecting too much of fairy tales Stat.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
|
