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RE: help with death please
September 8, 2011 at 11:50 pm
(September 8, 2011 at 10:13 pm)leeroy1987 Wrote: we exist from a to b. because at b, time stops existing, from an experience point of view we are still consumed from a to b. because death is nothing in terms of experience, it cant end our perception that we still existed from a to b
Death is the end of all perception, so yes, it does end our perception that we existed.
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 2:49 am
What difference does it make?
No matter what my friend, someday you ARE going to die. There is absolutely nothing you can do - no amount of philosophy or conjecture, prayer or tired cliches is going to change the outcome of your heart ceasing to beat.
You know who is the most afraid of death? People who refuse to stop dwelling on it. Let it go man. Live.
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 3:12 am
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2011 at 3:17 am by Faith No More.)
Is it your death, the deaths of others, or the concept in general you're struggling with?
There's a Buddhist meditation technique that can help you get over the fear of death. I know most atheists don't go for that, but it might be worth a shot.
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 3:31 am
Have you ever been in a deep and dreamless sleep, and when you woke up, it was as if you had forgotten you even existed for a while? When your brain dies, everything dies... pain and suffering, especially.
The person you lost will remain alive as long as you are living, and even longer, maybe...
Try to remember at least one thing this person taught you, and then teach it to someone else. Then, one day, that person might teach it to someone else, etc...
That is immortality.
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 11:04 am
I think people are missing the point, what i am saying is, we as indivduals do not experience death, in terms of experience, we always find ourselves present in the world, always alive
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 11:10 am
(September 9, 2011 at 11:04 am)leeroy1987 Wrote: I think people are missing the point, what i am saying is, we as indivduals do not experience death, in terms of experience, we always find ourselves present in the world, always alive
I've completely lost ya.
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 11:10 am
Well I would say of course we do. Always find ourselves alive, that is. You need a living and functioning brain to know anything about yourself. You can't think, oh shit, I'm dead without a brain to think it, can you?
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 1:26 pm
You've chosen an unfortunate name.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkCNJRfSZBU
Helping you deal with death: stop charging into whelp eggs shouting your name 
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RE: help with death please
September 9, 2011 at 1:45 pm
(September 9, 2011 at 11:10 am)Intimae_Hasta Wrote: Well I would say of course we do. Always find ourselves alive, that is. You need a living and functioning brain to know anything about yourself. You can't think, oh shit, I'm dead without a brain to think it, can you?
Many would argue that you can. My chips are on the table with you on this count.
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RE: help with death please
September 10, 2011 at 3:14 am
Maybe they would, Rhythm, but only the theists :-)
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