Life after death.

[The Grand Nudger]

....Stucky, Summer is jewish.

[Welsh cake]

Wow, now, I'm gonna get in trouble but that was a stupid non-sensical response to the thread.

Let's see if you can finish this statement all by yourself without any help:

"If you can't say anything nice..."

Btw, its nonsensical not "non-sensical" you're like my old English teacher who tried to criticise me in my end-of-year report by calling me stupid, only to go and spell "stupid" wrong.

[Ace Otana]

What do you believe?

I'm not asking for proof, just your own thoughts.

Death is the end of you. You quite simply, cease to exist.

Yes, I know what death is but is that the end of you sentient consciousness?

Consciousness cannot continue without the body and brain.

[thesummerqueen]

I guess he went to bed or something. I'll be back after I get the checks straightened out, go to class and the gym. If he still hasn't answered which he'd prefer, I guess we'll have to do both, which means unless he prefers to do the looking himself I'll have to lay out what all the different sects of Judaism believe as far as the messiah and afterlife, because you see despite all of us having a propensity for curly hair and a habit for bitching about the quality of the food, we don't all believe the same things.

Sort of like Christians.

Actually, there was a pretty interesting article in Evolutionblog, I think (could be wrong) about how half the people id'd as Jews now are actually atheists? It only took a few thousand years, but I guess we're all seeing the bullshit.

Stucky, here's a quick run down of what I was told as a conservatively raised Jew (who later went to a reform temple): When you die, people move on. When the messiah comes back, he takes you up to god. There's a lot of waffling about what happens up there, and not a lot of coherent answers. To help the messiah find you, some people put a bit of dirt from the Mount of Olives in their caskets, which is funny because most traditional jews don't get embalmed so I guess the messiah gives you a whole new body. Or you end up looking like the golem in X-files.

Life is about living. Most modern Jews, from what I gathered, believe God put you on this earth for a reason, and life is the object of existence, not death. I said they don't have much of an afterlife, because even now they don't - certainly not in comparison to christianity, which seems to care only about death. I swear I saw an explanation of this somewhere, but I can't find it right now and probably have it on my home comp. Either way, if I were you, I'd not look at Jewish sites when it comes to the *history* of their beliefs. Jews are pretty notorious for bullshit. Same as Christians, we're just savvier at it.

[Stucky]

What do you believe?

I'm not asking for proof, just your own thoughts.

Death is the end of you. You quite simply, cease to exist.

Yes, I know what death is but is that the end of you sentient consciousness?

Consciousness cannot continue without the body and brain.

I see, could you prove that please?

[thesummerqueen]

PS - spell check hated golem, but like gollum. wtf.

[Stucky]

....Stucky, Summer is jewish.

I'm well aware of that Rhythm, that doesn't make her an ex[ert on Jewish theology. I would love to see her argue with a learned Rabbi. I'm American but I sure dont know everything there is to know about America.

Avi Lipkin, my friend, on the other hand has a degree in Jewish theology.

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Wow, now, I'm gonna get in trouble but that was a stupid non-sensical response to the thread.

Let's see if you can finish this statement all by yourself without any help:

"If you can't say anything nice..."

Btw, its nonsensical not "non-sensical" you're like my old English teacher who tried to criticise me in my end-of-year report by calling me stupid, only to go and spell "stupid" wrong.

Are we grading for spelling here dude? If so, I flunk, I already said I am not intellectual like the rest of you. Also, I make typos too as I am not proficient in typing. Do you grade on the curve?

If you can/t say anything nice then make a sarcastic, bitter, angry response on Atheist Forums like many on here do. I'm just trying to fit in guy.

[thesummerqueen]

Of course I'm not going to know as much as a rabbi - I don't study philosophical masturbation.

[Napoléon]

Death is the end of you. You quite simply, cease to exist.
Consciousness cannot continue without the body and brain.

I see, could you prove that please?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death

I know this is a wiki article but the evidence and sources there should be sufficient. May I ask you to prove any alternative explanations? For instance do you have any proof of a soul?

Ask ANY biologist what happens scientifically after death and they will (should) tell you exactly what Ace said.

[thesummerqueen]

Nor was I trying to sound high and mighty - I gave you a blurb of some history and you went and ran with it, as if the history of what a people believed changes what they believe now.